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Old 08-16-2007, 12:15 AM
thedopplegangers thedopplegangers is offline
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Default 25nl flopped straight

Just sat down at the table and have no reads


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $22.35
BB: $7.45
UTG: $18.85
MP: $14.40
villain (CO): $40.00
Hero (BTN): $27.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, villain calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.75, villain calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">villain bets $1.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BB folds, villain calls $2.50

Turn: ($10.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
villain checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">villain raises all-in to $35.50</font>, Hero ????
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

I think more often than not this is just trips, I would call without thinking about it.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

Raise more on the flop. As played, readless, I think you have to call.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:23 AM
thedopplegangers thedopplegangers is offline
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

what do you raise to on the flop? Would you raise the pot because of possible flush draws.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

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what do you raise to on the flop? Would you raise the pot because of possible flush draws.

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I'd make it $5 or so on the flop. We're doing that partly because of the flush draw, but mainly because half the deck will kill our action on the turn against any hands that are willing to pay us off now.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

I call. Villain could have 98 or a slowplayed AA-QQ. Would villain donkbet and then just call your raise with TT, JJ, T9 or J9 on this flop? I think it takes either a moron or a genious to do that.

You beat most of his range and you need just about 3:5 odds. If he has a boat here i'm making a note.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

Do you think he calls a 2bet on the flop with just a 9 only??? I dont think so (unless he likes to spew). I think we see a FH here more often than not. If villain has AA-QQ, I think he'd raise flop here... and even preflop. Looks like 10-9 to me.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

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Do you think he calls a 2bet on the flop with just a 9 only???

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Yes, especially Q9 and 98, As9s or any 9sXs for that matter.

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If villain has AA-QQ, I think he'd raise flop here... and even preflop.

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So would he with two pair or a set. Preflop I agree, but he could have slowplayed preflop.


We beat: 9sXs, 98, 87, As9s, Ks9s, Q9, JT, AJ???, AA-QQ.
We fear: J9, T9, TT, JJ

Although some of the hands we beat are not as likely as some we fear, I'd like to know if this player would b/c with twopair or a set on this flop. I think it's more likely he has a 9 and maybe a draw on the flop to b/c there and get this agressive on the turn. Also; if he has a boat wouldn't he try to maximise against OP instead of going allin?
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

Without reads, there's no way I'd fold here. I'd raise to about $6.00 on the flop.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: 25nl flopped straight

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what do you raise to on the flop? Would you raise the pot because of possible flush draws.

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I'd make it $5 or so on the flop. We're doing that partly because of the flush draw, but mainly because half the deck will kill our action on the turn against any hands that are willing to pay us off now.

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And because we want to build a huge pot asap, and raising just $3 will not do it.
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