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Old 08-13-2007, 11:35 AM
Kalledrengen Kalledrengen is offline
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Default [NLTRN] - How are my PT stats after 350 games?

I'm somewhat new to the HU SNG forum but dispite that having read a lot of the older threads. I haven't noticed a PT stats thread concerning HU play as far as I can remember and I'm kinda interrested to see if I have any obvious leaks regarding PT stats.

So if any of you HU SNG players who are solid long term winners could point out any possible leak in my game looking at my PT stats that would be greatly appriciated [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]



Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Just to clear things up, I'm of course not asking about my winrate and such. I'm curious about my VPIP/raise/win$showdown ect ect... all of those that could point out a possible leak in my game.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:45 PM
Duuzend Duuzend is offline
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Default Re: [NLTRN] - How are my PT stats after 350 games?

you seem to be raising a lot in the later (40/80 and higher) levels.. Your effective stacksize will decrease most of the times so I think it'll be correct to limp more hands, but I don't have my stats with me atm so take it with a grain of salt.. Try limping more and stealing postflop at 40/80 and beyond since most opponents at the lower level are pretty weak/tight in most spots. That's all I can tell you, but I'd focus on playing postflop, analysing your sessions and reading hands/betting patterns rather than analysing your PT stats.. This seems to be much more effective and important than (just) analysing your PT stats
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:33 PM
ChicagoRy ChicagoRy is offline
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Default Re: [NLTRN] - How are my PT stats after 350 games?

I think you need more hands in the latter levels to conclude anything.

You seem to be doing well in the levels with the greatest sample size.

Also looks like you might have trouble playing when one of you has a significant lead in the match. Either that or maybe just variance, not sure.

What hands are you winning and losing the most money with?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:17 PM
Kalledrengen Kalledrengen is offline
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Default Re: [NLTRN] - How are my PT stats after 350 games?

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you seem to be raising a lot in the later (40/80 and higher) levels.. Your effective stacksize will decrease most of the times so I think it'll be correct to limp more hands, but I don't have my stats with me atm so take it with a grain of salt.. Try limping more and stealing postflop at 40/80 and beyond since most opponents at the lower level are pretty weak/tight in most spots.

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I must say I would never have thought about limping myself in the later lvls where the blinds are rather high compared to your stack. I thought it was crucial to raise and steal as many blinds as possible.
But your idea sounds sensible, limping against the more weak/tight players should allow me to steal almost as much but risk less. I'll give it a try at least [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] thanks.

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Also looks like you might have trouble playing when one of you has a significant lead in the match.

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Is it the fact that I'm generally losing the later lvls that makes you think this? Or which other stat could imply this? I'll be sure to check up on it when I've gotten a lot more hands to see if that seems to be the case. I personally have no idea if I'm weak when one of us has a big lead, I might be.

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What hands are you winning and losing the most money with?

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My best 20 hands in terms of money won:

1. AA - 43 times - 95,35% win - T$won = 16700
2. AQo - 98 times - 85,71% win - T$won = 16665
3. KK - 48 times - 93,75% win - T$won = 13730
4. 88 - 35 times - 88,57% win - T$won = 10175
5. AKo - 89 times - 80,90% win - T$won = 8315
6. A9o - 63 times - 77,78% win - T$won = 6870
7. ATs - 28 times - 89,29% win - T$won = 6620
8. KJs - 32 times - 87,50% win - T$won = 6125
9. A2s - 31 times - 80,65% win - T$won = 5885
10. ATo - 82 times - 71,95% win - T$won = 3590
11. QQ - 33 times - 84,85% win - T$won = 3585
12. A8s - 25 times - 72,00% win - T$won = 3035
13. A7o - 80 times - 72,50% win - T$won = 3020
14. A7s - 28 times - 67,86% win - T$won = 2805
15. TT - 22 times - 81,82% win - T$won = 2710
16. 87o - 61 times - 45,90% win - T$won = 2450
17. J6o - 71 times - 50,70% win - T$won = 2400
18. A3s - 19 times - 78,95% win - T$won = 2370
19. Q4s - 24 times - 66,67% win - T$won = 2330
20. AJo - 78 times - 84,62% win - T$won = 2280

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My worst 20 hands in terms of money lost:

1. K8o - 83 times - 61,45% win - T$won = -6405
2. A6o - 65 times - 58,46% win - T$won = -5830
3. J9s - 35 times - 54,29% win - T$won = -5400
4. Q3o - 70 times - 38,27% win - T$won = -4045
5. 22 - 39 times - 51,28% win - T$won = -3480
6. K9o - 89 times - 61,80% win - T$won = -3395
7. 93o - 70 times - 24,29% win - T$won = -3045
8. A2o - 96 times - 55,21% win - T$won = -2850
9. 85o - 72 times - 22,22% win - T$won = -2600
10. J2o - 78 times - 26,92% win - T$won = -2595
11. Q5o - 76 times - 57,89% win - T$won = -2580
12. 97o - 62 times - 24,19% win - T$won = -2565
13. k2s - 34 times - 58,82% win - T$won = -2565
14. Q5s - 19 times - 52,63% win - T$won = -2305
15. 95o - 89 times - 32,58% win - T$won = -2255
16. 65o - 63 times - 31,75% win - T$won = -2240
17. 83o - 78 times - 24,36% win - T$won = -2140
18. T7s - 38 times - 36,84% win - T$won = -2115
19. JTo - 64 times - 53,13% win - T$won = -2080
20. 96o - 67 times - 31,34% win - T$won = -2065

The above hands are over all the lvls btw
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I've been looking on those hands for a little now and not really sure what I can learn from them.
How many times must you play a single hand, for you to be sure you are winning or losing with it? Knowing this is heads up I guess it shouldn't be a lot more than perhaps 100-200 hands before you get a solid picture, perhaps even earlier?

Many of my losing hands I have above 50% winrate, so obviously I'm winning small pots and losing large with many of these. And it makes sense as they many of them are "trouble" hands. Perhaps I'm ignoring my kicker too often when I have top pair..

Can you see more things that could point towards a leak by seeing these hands?
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: [NLTRN] - How are my PT stats after 350 games?

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I must say I would never have thought about limping myself in the later lvls where the blinds are rather high compared to your stack. I thought it was crucial to raise and steal as many blinds as possible.
But your idea sounds sensible, limping against the more weak/tight players should allow me to steal almost as much but risk less. I'll give it a try at least thanks.

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yep it's important to keep the pressure on, but you can't raise as much because of the relatively small stacks. Large raises PF create large pots postflop which will create some tricky spots for you postflop. There's a little section on this effect in No Limit Theory and Practice by Sklansky and Miller IIRC. also read this: click

I don't know exactly what the big guys have to say about this, I'm just getting started in HUSNG's and read everything in this forum like a maniac, which helped my game alot..
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