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Profit on the button?
Is a winning player profitable or not when playing from the button position over the long run?
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Re: Profit on the button?
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Is a winning player profitable or not when playing from the button position over the long run? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. But over a very large number of hands, I would expect a "winning" player to be profitable in all positions except the blinds. However, I would expect a higher amount of profit from the later positions like the cutoff and the button. |
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Re: Profit on the button?
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Is a winning player profitable or not when playing from the button position over the long run? [/ QUOTE ] The button should be the most profitable position. I doubt it's possible to be a winner without being a significant winner on the button. |
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Re: Profit on the button?
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[ QUOTE ] Is a winning player profitable or not when playing from the button position over the long run? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. But over a very large number of hands, I would expect a "winning" player to be profitable in all positions except the blinds. However, I would expect a higher amount of profit from the later positions like the cutoff and the button. [/ QUOTE ] Is it bad that SB is my most profitable position? I'm playing it at 28/3.62/not sure on post flop aggression. I have a winrate% of 9.2%. This is only over 4.5k hands so not a very large sample. But should I look at tightening my play here? |
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Re: Profit on the button?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is a winning player profitable or not when playing from the button position over the long run? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. But over a very large number of hands, I would expect a "winning" player to be profitable in all positions except the blinds. However, I would expect a higher amount of profit from the later positions like the cutoff and the button. [/ QUOTE ] Is it bad that SB is my most profitable position? I'm playing it at 28/3.62/not sure on post flop aggression. I have a winrate% of 9.2%. This is only over 4.5k hands so not a very large sample. But should I look at tightening my play here? [/ QUOTE ] Your winrate in the blinds will certainly go negative eventually. Are your stats for limit or no limit? Short-handed or full-ring? In any case, you're on the loose side and you don't raise enough preflop. |
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Re: Profit on the button?
Sorry those stats were for NL fullring games. So if I'm likely to start losing over the long run I should start to play a lot tighter instead of just starting to raise more right?
(Sorry for the thread Hi-jack.) |
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Re: Profit on the button?
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Sorry those stats were for NL fullring games. So if I'm likely to start losing over the long run I should start to play a lot tighter instead of just starting to raise more right? (Sorry for the thread Hi-jack.) [/ QUOTE ] You'll lose from the blinds in the longrun. I don't play NL so I don't know what reasonable stats look like for your game. Here is a FAQ with some relevant links (about 1/2 way down). |
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Re: Profit on the button?
A winning player should be profitable in every position other than the blinds, and increasingly more profitable as you move from UTG to the button. Think about it; in all these positions you are never forced to put in money, so why would you ever play a hand with which you won't turn a profit?
A net loss from the SB and BB is to be expected, but your goal should be to limit these losses as much as possible. |
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Re: Profit on the button?
I know my sample size is small, 624 hands. I show profit as expected, that diminishes as position worsens, as expected, but I show a small loss on the button.
I'm just analyzing and trying to figure out why. I did think the button should be profitable. .5/1 limit <font color="red">Button) -.55</font> 1) 26.75 2) 17.20 3) 17.20 4) 22.45 5) 9.05 6) 1.80 7) 2.55 <font color="red">BB) -19.80 SB) -32.00</font> For an overall win of $44.65 over the 624 hands. |
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Re: Profit on the button?
Very simply, your sample size is way too small. Give it more time to even out, and don't try to compensate by playing a lot looser/tighter on the button than you think you should. It will even out in the long run, guaranteed.
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