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Old 08-14-2007, 12:58 PM
Acevader Acevader is offline
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Default NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

Villain is 20/16/6.3 (288)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $170.55
BB: $70.70
UTG: $80.00
CO: $350.20
Hero (BTN): $206.20

UTG posts $2.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO raises to $9.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $26.00

Flop: ($75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, CO calls $45.00

Turn: ($165) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($165) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $136.00</font>

Hero?
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

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Old 08-14-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

I fold. The only hand you're beating here is JJ, air, or a bluff/semi-bluff (mid pp or AQ/AJ0.

AK, flopped set, T, or AA all well within villain's range beat you. I think the fact you bet the flop thin hurts because a hand like AK could call 45 into 70.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

like snowmen i guess?
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

well, why did you check the turn?

If its to induce a bluff from JJ/99/AT then I guess you've got to call.

If it was because you think his calling you're flop bet means he's got AA/KK, then fold.

If you checked the turn because you had no idea what he has, then you're not much further forward....but I'd fold. What do you beat except JJ?
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

Agreeing with gradx, only hands you are beating here are JJ, AQ, and AJ. I think this a fold, but this is a real tough spot. I may have bet turn, but I think his river bet is legit.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

Uhh, if villian has AT he's a winner!
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

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Uhh, if villian has AT he's a winner!

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I know he's a winner now, but at the time we would have been beating him, therefore trying to induce him to bet a worse hand
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

The turn check was pot-control. I'm not going to get much more/any value from A10/JJ type hands. I wasn't specifically trying to induce a bluff either but would have been more likely to call safer rivers.

Result

I folded and villain didn't show. I'll never know but I felt there was literally no legitimate hand I can beat as I feel villain isn't too likely to value bet JJ in this manner.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: NL$200| QQ faces tough river decision in 3-bet pot

i like the way you played it, turn and river has been both bad cards, so there's nothing wrong in folding at the river imho. You beat exactly JJ/Bluff so not very much.
And a bluff is not very likely imho, if you dont bet JJ/QQ at the turn usually.

But u have 288 hands about him, so he has to know sth. about you. Have you played many reraised pots with him and what where the results?
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