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Old 08-14-2007, 11:34 AM
toucan toucan is offline
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Default Set of Queens, 200bb deep

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $183.57
BB: $136.18
UTG: $41.38
CO: $105.35
Hero (BTN): $202.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $5.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.00</font>, SB calls $14.50, 2 folds, CO calls $10.00

Flop: ($47) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $15.00

Turn: ($77) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $25.00</font>, Hero calls $25.00

River: ($127) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $128.57</font>

Villain is 27/7 over 178 hands, not great but isn't a donk either. I imagine my image to be pretty solid. At the time I believed his most likely holding to be AK, but if so he's essentially turned his hand into a bluff with his river action. Thoughts on all streets appreciated.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:38 AM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

Raise flop to $90 and call a shove or shove the turn. No reason to have any betting on the river.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

he bet 1/3 pot on the flop and you didnt raise even though its super drawy...then he bet 1/3 pot on the turn and you didnt raise even though its super drawy...
by just calling these streets youre letting him price himself in while you learn nothing about his hand. you need to raise so you can both charge him to draw/get it all in by the river. second set 200bb deep is the nuts; raise one of the early streets.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:40 AM
Suwalski Suwalski is offline
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

I raise flop and turn, since you just called on both streets, the flush came on the river, and the fact that we're pretty deep makes the river decision very tough - I don't know.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:45 AM
RocktheCasbah RocktheCasbah is offline
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

rasie flop, raise turn, get it AI before river.
AS played this is a tough call
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:45 AM
Aschweinsteiger Aschweinsteiger is offline
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

i would raise a little more that 3xbb preflop. Then i would raise it up on the flop all day to about 50ish. U played this hand so weak that u deserve to lose to a flush. The only hands besides a flush that i can see villan having here is some kind of two pair, but how is that possible with his cold call pf.
When it comes down to it if ur afraid that villan has exactlly AA then ur playing way too scared and are missing alot of value and are gonan let ppl draw out on you. U have the lead, ur the aggressor, so get aggressive. raise the flop and be more than happy to get all in on flop and turn.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:57 AM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

What the........

I assume your genius masterplan was to call him down and let him hang himself, so call.

Raise flop tho in teh future.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

I totally agree, I worry far too much about getting stacked when playing reasonably deep and play hands as horribly as this. If we were 100bb deep I know I raise the flop all day. I also have it in my head for some reason that people won't stack off AK on a board like this for 200bb which also leads to me playing more passively. Obviously I should have just raised the flop here.

For those of you worried about the flush what hand are you putting him on? I have trouble imagining him CCing a three bet OOP with a hand like KJc or a suited connector, especially when he is not even closing the action.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

raise flop, raise turn, call river.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Set of Queens, 200bb deep

at least you know he doesnt have AKcc. i probably call putting JJ, 88 and AJs in his range
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