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Old 08-13-2007, 06:55 AM
mixmastermattyk mixmastermattyk is offline
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Default (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

Kind of a dream situation, except the two other big stacks aren't exactly aggressive. Haven't played against SB before and he seems a bit fishy and loose passive, while button is a regular who is a bit of a nit. The other player in the hand is a bit of a wildcard, a bit crazy sometimes.

Not sure I liked how I played this hand. Thought I'd try and rep aces without hearts or something, but immediately thought that betting the flop weak and hoping to get raised by any flush putting me on aces would be better.

River seemed like it would purely be a bluff, any value in it?

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $102.46
UTG+1: $197
MP1: $290.32
Hero: $526.97
MP3: $185.76
CO: $34
Button: $583.29
SB: $264.77
BB: $28.50

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $9</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($38, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($38, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $18</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $76</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($190, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $190
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:49 AM
pete fabrizio pete fabrizio is offline
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

Bet the river w/ nut flush here because opponent thinks you won't.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

I would bet about 1/2 pot on river for value.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

I almost always bet the Flop with the nutflush and hope someone has a set or a lower Flush calling. As played I check behind on the river, but I am a nit.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

with a hand like this you have to make an 'unusual' bet on the flop - if you normally c-bet the pot, bet half etc

reasses the turn, but i probably pot it, hoping my flop play will have put enough doubt in his mind that i could have the bare K

the river is read dependant, but i probably bet $50 or so and fold in the unlikely event he repots
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

Dude, this is a dream flop. Please bet next time.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:34 AM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

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Dude, this is a dream flop. Please bet next time.

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it's unlikely that anyone has anything more than 6 outs (AA repops it preflop and 55/66 aren't particularly likely, so if you do bet don't make it big. Make it look like a scared AA or something so you get value from a baby flush. Or to get raised by someone putting you on AA.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:19 PM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

I'm betting ~2/3 pot here every time. I do that with weak flushes and with the naked ace often enough that I catch people throwing stone cold bluffs at me occasionally, so I'd do the same here and hope they run one of those bets into the nuts. In general though, a line of 2/3 pot, 2/3 pot, 1/2 pot is going to be very hard for any kind of good flush to fold to.

Also, checking the flop/raising the turn is almost always a horrible idea as it reps way more strength than just betting and gets the same amount of money in.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:06 PM
Kala1928 Kala1928 is offline
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

google for 'building the pot'
bet flop
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: (1/2) Flopped Nut Flush with KKxx 250BB deep

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Dude, this is a dream flop. Please bet next time.

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it's unlikely that anyone has anything more than 6 outs (AA repops it preflop and 55/66 aren't particularly likely, so if you do bet don't make it big. Make it look like a scared AA or something so you get value from a baby flush. Or to get raised by someone putting you on AA.

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what is the point is raising a wide range of hands if you aren't gonna bet when you flop gin? not betting the flop here is an atrocity.
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