SSL, rate this play for me

[KitCloudkicker]

"....A player ahead of me with Ace-King raised it and by the time it rounded to me, four players were in. I realized I had Eight-Seven suited, a hand with lots of potential, and so I made it three bets. The flop came Ace-Six-Nine (all different suits), giving the original player his magic pair of Aces with a King kicker. It gave me an open ended straight draw with little chance of a flush. He bet, everyone folded to me. I raised, and he raised again, when I finally called. The fourth card came a Ten, and he bet, I smooth called, hiding my straight. Although there was a flush draw on the board, it was unlikely he was holding the Ace-King of the flush, and so I confidently slow-played my made straight.

The river came a Two (not of the flush suit) and I was golden. He bet, I raised, and he became puzzled. He knew the Two didn't help me, but he couldn't put me on a hand that would have resulted in all that aggression so early except a set. Nevertheless he called my raise and threw his Ace-King down in disgust. I dragged the $247.50 pot (minus the casino's $4 rake and a $2.50 tip for the dealer) and spent the next ten minutes stacking my (his) chips."

[HoneyBadger]

Somewhere between E- and F+. I think for these types of players we have to give some credit for not bluff calling the river in position.

Or the AK guy? He played it perfectly.

[Bob T.]

I don't really like it.

Preflop. I can't imagine that your equity edge here outweighs the potential implied odds that you are killing with your preflop raise.

Flop. You are laying 1-2 in a pot that is headsup. It's ok if you believe that you are going to get the free card here. When he donks the flop, I would almost certainly guess his hand as an ace something, so I don't know if you will actually get the freecard that you are looking for. Again, I would just try to get the best odds by calling.

Turn. Why not raise now? He certainly isn't going to put you on your hand, and you don't run the risk of missing a raise on the river if he checks the river.

River. Ok.

[HoneyBadger]

I thought the exact same thing, Bob. That's why I made the river comment; in my opinion, it was the only street played correctly.

(Flop raise is most debatable, but I don't like it here. You are just bound to get 3-bet and bet into on the turn. If you must semi-bluff, I'd rather raise the turn and hopefully get him to fold a big pair. Note, "if you must": I wouldn't make the play. His betting into the field is far too likely to be an ace he won't fold.)

[numbnuts007]

2/10

PF - I fold, certainly don't raise. Does anyone call here?

Flop - I call, against one player i probably won't try to take the free card. Either it kills the action or puts more money in behind. I'll wait until i hit my card.

Turn - raise raise raise. He already expressed a willingness to put some bets in on the flop. See if you can get a few big bets in on the turn.

River - raise

Where did this come from kit? With the quotes and narroration it doesn't seem like a hand you played.

[HoneyBadger]

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PF - I fold, certainly don't raise. Does anyone call here?


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Yeah, a call is fine. Especially when your opponents are weak.
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Flop - I call, against one player i probably won't try to take the free card. Either it kills the action or puts more money in behind. I'll wait until i hit my card.

Turn - raise raise raise. He already expressed a willingness to put some bets in on the flop. See if you can get a few big bets in on the turn.

River - raise

Where did this come from kit? With the quotes and narroration it doesn't seem like a hand you played.

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Probably either a BBV story where kit is holding the AK, or some succes story told to him by a friend?

[Holm Fries]

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I don't really like it.

Preflop. I can't imagine that your equity edge here outweighs the potential implied odds that you are killing with your preflop raise.

Flop. You are laying 1-2 in a pot that is headsup. It's ok if you believe that you are going to get the free card here. When he donks the flop, I would almost certainly guess his hand as an ace something, so I don't know if you will actually get the freecard that you are looking for. Again, I would just try to get the best odds by calling.

Turn. Why not raise now? He certainly isn't going to put you on your hand, and you don't run the risk of missing a raise on the river if he checks the river.

River. Ok.

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[KitCloudkicker]

Source:


http://www.safdar.net/shabbir/2006/0...ree_rakin.html

A blog from a fellow pink chip player (well, I actually dont play pink chip anymore, so I guess not).

I put this hand up as an example of some of the bad poker strategy thats out there, either in blogs, websites, or otherwise. I just used it as a quick advisory note for new players to be careful of what you read, no matter how authoritative it may sound. (And if you read this guys' blog, his tone makes it sound like he's an expert)

[HoneyBadger]

Sad thing is that so many of these people luckbox their way through the limits, turn pro and make a lot of money. I know people irl like that. He's playing 25/50 NL (that's $5k buy-in, right?) now and doesn't even know what odds are.

[Bob T.]

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A blog from a fellow pink chip player (well, I actually dont play pink chip anymore, so I guess not).


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If the hands he put in his blog are the ones he thinks he played well, I would love to see his other ones.