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Old 08-12-2007, 03:28 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $46.50
BB: $100.00
UTG: $29.06
MP: $102.60
CO: $15.62
Hero (BTN): $113.67

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q J (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $1.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4.00, CO folds

Flop: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J T (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $7.00</font>,

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Old 08-12-2007, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

Call. A flop that hits many hands and most opponents won't fold anything to a raise which will lead you into a very tough spot on the turn.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

call. folding would be ok also.
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

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call. folding would be ok also.

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wtf no way, why would you ever fold here?
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

no, but thats mostly because I am very stubborn.

Turns going to be tough to play, his lead on this board should be very very strong and we will have a tough time calling a 2nd barrel and we 100% puke and fold to a 3rd barrel.
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

Bukem_ what? Turn might be a close decision, but its pretty easy: call with pottodds, fold without. And check behind UI ldo. He slows down or you inprove alot of the times so its way worth it.
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

bleh i wrote a bunch but it got deleted. basically last time I had the nuts vs a solid villain at these stakes my immediate reaction was to raise since villain will tend to be very strong leading out on this flop.

peeling one certainly isn't bad, calling two will be bad vs most solid tags though. do i drop qj on this flop, pretty much never, would it have any significant change in my winrate, probably not.
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

call, bet if checked to on a blank turn, evaluate if bet at, inclining to folding.
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

Pretty passive players here.. most likely you're ahead.. just call? A min raise would have been called and you still have position on turn to decide what to do.

In situations like this I call 60% min-raise 40%.
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Old 08-12-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Tough flop spot.. facing donkbet by unknown

lol minraise is awful you're going to get 3bet a ton
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