1000NL - Folding the nut flush in pos on turn

[gir]

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $957.00
BB: $305.00
UTG: $553.66
MP: $1,025.00
CO: $976.25
Hero (BTN): $4,238.51

Reads: <font color="blue">26/8/2 ~ 80 hands</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $35.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $35.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $70.00</font>, Hero calls $70.00

Turn: ($225) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $150.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $375.00

[tripledrawrocks]

u mean nut flush draw?

[Caballa]

Raise the flop to $200-$220. I'm not sure how much fold equity you'd have given his stack, but I still think it's better than saying "I have the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], push me off of it on the turn" by calling.

[soah]

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Raise the flop to $200-$220. I'm not sure how much fold equity you'd have given his stack, but I still think it's better than saying "I have the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], push me off of it on the turn" by calling.

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if your range for a flop call is only the naked Ac then you have some f'ing huge holes in your game

and making a bluff when you don't know how much FE you have ain't so hot either... you can't advocate one line over another until you start making some assumptions and then crunching the numbers on them

[gir]

Yes, nut flush draw.

The guy had $500 to begin with. I highly doubt there was much fold equity there.

I'm just looking for someone to tell me whether the turn is a fold or not.

[tripledrawrocks]

the turn is a fold, you're not getting immediate odds, and you have no implied odds

[dreamcircus]

Don't think raising flop to $200-220 works... either call(totally fine) or shove(some would do it) which would force anything other than made flush to fold.

[soah]

well you're not getting direct odds and your draw isn't exactly disguised so... I'd need a pretty compelling reason to not fold at this point

[tripledrawrocks]

I think raising to 200-220 or shoving works fine on flop, I don't mind getting it all in with overcard+nfd against a halfstacker. But a made flush is not the only hand that calls, TPGK+Fd,any 2pair+ calls

[dreamcircus]

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I think raising to 200-220 or shoving works fine on flop, I don't mind getting it all in with overcard+nfd against a halfstacker. But a made flush is not the only hand that calls, TPGK+Fd,any 2pair+ calls

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Would such hands calling be correct? I don't think so. If he shoved the flop, only hand he's a reasonable dog against = made flush, and he still a decent chance to draw to win. 2-pair, TPGK etc are not what he should be worried about. Definitely think that raising to $200, missing the turn, then the hand is done.. personally speaking I hate putting myself in a difficult spot on turn.