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08-10-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: panties in a bunch?
yah, u guys were right.... unlike the rest of the table, he was an unknown to me... my read of him being tightish actually might've been an after thought as he was one of those guys who kept bitching that hands like j8s were taking down big pots... he was the type who understood domination and staying outta trouble but probably did not understand implied odds...
i think i would 4 bet if utg called, getting 2 to 1 and reevaluate on the river... "can he have QTs?" was the exact thought i was asking myself... i thought "no way" on the flop and gave him underset because of cold call 3.5, but because of his semi-insta-3bone w/o nuts on the turn (live players just dont do that)... if he "thought" about it a little more on the turn,i probably would've capped... given read of this guy's tendencies and the protection of the 4 bet structure, i probably would 4 bet but just call if he donks into me again on the river... by "protection", i mean i wouldnt raise river for fear of getting 3 boned again... i really felt like i played like a little girl here... would you raise turn against an unknown? how about a loose passive because then we'd have to factor in QTo as a possible hand... 
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#13
08-10-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: panties in a bunch?
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yes, he could have FOLDED [/ QUOTE ] You indicated that his range is more likely to be QTs than KK, JJ, etc., based on PF action. I was pointing out that since he can't RR PF, you can't distinguish between the two.
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#14
08-10-2007, 01:21 PM
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Re: panties in a bunch?
yes, we can
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#15
08-10-2007, 03:21 PM
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Re: panties in a bunch?
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yes, we can [/ QUOTE ] If you mean that a good player doesn't call 3.5 cold from the SB with QTs, then say that. I agree.
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