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Old 08-10-2007, 09:58 AM
Lahmshuffle Lahmshuffle is offline
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Default 22$: 3-handed ITM high blinds. my exemplary aggro push/fold strategy

This ITM Situation happens quite often and thats how I play it. I believe my approach is risky yet mostly correct. I did only post those hands which bear potential for discussions. I would be glad if we could share some thoughts on those few hands. Both Villains were rather tight when opening yet they were fearless to call me with rather mediocre hands. Is pushing/folding in those situations +EV with normal ranges? They played really standard IMO. Thanks for your help. Perhaps this gives you a little help too.

Hand No.1:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t4020)
Hero (t4470)
BB (t11510)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button calls t600, Hero goes all-in t4470, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: t1500

Hand No.2:
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Button (t2520)
Hero (t5970)
BB (t11510)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero goes all-in t5970, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t900

Hand No.03:
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SB (t2820)
Hero (t6570)
Button (t10610)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t3300

Hand No.4:
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Button (t2520)
Hero (t5970)
BB (t11510)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero goes all-in t5970, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t900

Hand No.6:
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BB (t2520)
Hero (t6570)
SB (t10910)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero goes all-in t6570 , <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t900

Hand No.7:
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SB (t1920)
Hero (t7470)
Button (t10610)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB goes all-in t1920, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. (call this here?)

Final Pot: t900

Hand No.8:
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Button (t2520)
Hero (t6870)
BB (t10610)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. (no push)

Final Pot: t900

Hand 9:
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SB (t1920)
Hero (t6570)
Button (t11510)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero goes all-in t5970, Button calls t4170.

Flop: (t7470) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t7470) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t7470) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t7470

Button shows [ Th, Kh ]a pair of Eights.
Lahmshuffle shows [ Ah, Qd ]a pair of Eights.
Lahmshuffle wins 13,440 chips from the main pot with a pair of Eights with Ace kicker.

Hand 11:
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Button (t1620)
Hero (t13440)
BB (t4940)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. (no push)

Final Pot: t900

Hand 12:
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BB (t1620)
Hero (t13140)
SB (t5240)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero goes all-in t13140, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t1020.

Flop: (t900) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t900) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t900

Lahmshuffle shows [ Ah, 3c ]a pair of Queens.
Rustytooth shows [ 9h, Kd ]two pairs, Queens and Nines.
Lahmshuffle wins 11,520 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of Queens.
Rustytooth wins 3,540 chips from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Nines.

Hand 13:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t6780)
Hero (t9420)
SB (t3800)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero goes all-in t9420 , <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t6180.

Flop: (t900) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t900) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t900) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t900

Lahmshuffle shows [ 6s, Ad ]two pairs, Tens and Sixes.
Rustytooth shows [ 9d, 9h ]two pairs, Tens and Nines.
Lahmshuffle wins 2,640 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, Tens and Sixes.
Rustytooth wins 13,860 chips from the main pot with two pairs, Tens and Nines.

Hand 14:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button (t13560)
Hero (t2940)
BB (t3500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero goes all-in t2940, BB calls t2340.

Flop: (t3240) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t3240) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3240) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3240

Lahmshuffle shows [ 5h, 4c ]two pairs, Queens and Fives.
BAFrodeJS shows [ 3h, Kh ]a pair of Queens.
Lahmshuffle wins 5,880 chips from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Fives.

and the 3-handed action was over..i was in HU 5:15 Chipcount
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:18 AM
TheMayor TheMayor is offline
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Default Re: 22$: 3-handed ITM high blinds. my exemplary aggro push/fold strate


Hand 11:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t1620)
Hero (t13440)
BB (t4940)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. (no push)

Final Pot: t900


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Is this one not a push with your stack against bb with 4k here?
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:12 PM
stevi3p stevi3p is offline
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Default Re: 22$: 3-handed ITM high blinds. my exemplary aggro push/fold strate

1 - feels like a very thin push, so not obv bad or good; need to know something about button.

2 - i agree - very very easy push

3 - i agree with folding

4 - i agree - easy push

6 - i think i prefer a smaller raise. if the sb is good he'll think he can push you off this, because the BB is shorter. if he's not good, he won't be scared by the change from pushing to a smaller raise. but it depends a bit on history, and pushing certainly isn't horrible.

7 - i think i call this instead of folindg. assuming no antes, you're getting better than 2-1, and sb is pushing very very wide in this spot.

8 - i think i fold too, unless you have a strong read on BB

9 - i agree with the push

11 - why fold? very easy push imo. bb has to call tightly because of button. and K7 is a decent hand. i think pushing is unexploitable here. i probably push 80-90%.

12 - i agree with pushing. sb will fold nearly always giving you very good odds with a decent hand

13 - i agree with pushing. BB again has to call fairly tightly because of the sb stack, and you have a decent hand

14 - very opponent dependent, but looks fine to me.

hope this is helpful

steve
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:46 PM
Lahmshuffle Lahmshuffle is offline
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Default Re: 22$: 3-handed ITM high blinds. my exemplary aggro push/fold strate

yeah it is...i think the only real leak is hand 11..the KK push was a nice psychological play because i has pushed the last two hands so i thought i would perhaps endulge a call here...the call with 56s is certainly possible too..only did not want him to double up again.
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:57 PM
deepextragully deepextragully is offline
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Default Re: 22$: 3-handed ITM high blinds. my exemplary aggro push/fold strate

Call 56s, push k7o, maybe limp or shove Q6s depending on bb.
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:08 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default Re: 22$: 3-handed ITM high blinds. my exemplary aggro push/fold strate

[ QUOTE ]
yeah it is...i think the only real leak is hand 11..the KK push was a nice psychological play because i has pushed the last two hands so i thought i would perhaps endulge a call here...the call with 56s is certainly possible too..only did not want him to double up again.

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Gotta shove the K7. Def call the 65s. Probably limp the KK, but shoving is okay.
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