KJs 5/10

[Mozart]

no reads, have just 34 hands with him played.
Looks tagish.
Is it better to raise the turn?

Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
4 players
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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 6.25BB

[yourface]

nah pump the flop you have great equity
he has to fold a better hand like never for a raise to be +ev
on the turn your equity isn't going to be as good (if you miss obv) and his hand range will usually be stronger when he bets again

[blackasthma]

nice hand.

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nah pump the flop you have great equity
he has to fold a better hand like never for a raise to be +ev
on the turn your equity isn't going to be as good (if you miss obv) and his hand range will usually be stronger when he bets again

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Ya. If he is TAGgish he can release 9x if you cap the flop and you have 15-18 outs a lot when behind. Also capping the flop is good for metagame for next time you have Qx.

[jba]

nothing bad can happen by putting in a bunch of bets on the flop.

you played this perfectly.

[dhaimon]

well played.

[mvoss]

Nice hand.

[deviouz]

this type of hand does not play well against a pre-flop raiser, but you are allready in, and called the 3-bet correctly, you flop a nice draw, and you re-raise, I think a call might have been a better play, since you still not have anything yet, and only one oponent, this means to little money in the pot and you will not have that raise back to you if you win the pot, yet you bet on the turn having nothing, maybe take the freecard would have been better, you re-raised incorrectly and would have had that option after all, and you could have seen a free showdown since you have position on the villain

[HoneyBadger]

Completely standard. I wouldn't raise the turn. Your hand has no showdown value UI, and you are likely to be 3-bet and obviously can't fold.

[Wolfram]

OP,
nh.

deviouz,

I don't mean to attack you bro, but I wanna point out some flaws in your post:

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this type of hand does not play well against a pre-flop raiser, but you are allready in, and called the 3-bet correctly

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Preflop is super standard. It is folded to us on the button and we have a very strong hand with good high-cards, flush and straight potential. When we get 3-bet we might be in a troublespot, but we do have position, and it's a 4-handed blind steal situation so villains range really isn't that tight that we need to be to worried about domination.

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you flop a nice draw, and you re-raise, I think a call might have been a better play, since you still not have anything yet, and only one oponent, this means to little money in the pot and you will not have that raise back to you if you win the pot

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Our draw isn't just "nice", it is basically a monster. We probably have 12 clean outs (flush or straight) and some overcard outs as well. Our equity in the hand his almost certainly bigger than villains equity, so for each extra bet that goes into the pot we're making more money than he is on average. And another great reason to raise it here is that he might check the turn, and then we can either value-bet if we hit, or check behind 'cause then we won't have as much equity.

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yet you bet on the turn having nothing, maybe take the freecard would have been better, you re-raised incorrectly and would have had that option after all, and you could have seen a free showdown since you have position on the villain

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You need to work on your post reading skills (your comment on my hand was also based on misreading the hand).
He never bet the turn. Villain bet the turn, so OP never had the option to check behind.

I have no idea what you mean by re-raising incorrectly. There was no re-raise in the hand at any point (it goes: Bet, Raise, Re-raise (3-bet), Re-re-raise (4-bet).

And he did take a free showdown.