200 NL bodog, flop bottom two in raised pot and get action from limper

[bmanning]

Yes I will limp 86s on bodog after another limper. I would never do this on stars as it would prob get raised to 10 after me(people like to minraise on bodog). Original pfr is 40/10 and the villain in this hand is 33/12.

Comments on all streets are welcome.

What are your plans for the flop minraise and for the rest of the hand. Isn't this a slightly ahead/way behind situation with half the cards in the deck being scare cards for me on the turn? If i call the pot will be 130 on the turn with 150 stacks left over.


Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP2 ($180.27)
CO ($462.00)
Button ($316.84)
SB ($57.00)
BB ($203.00)
UTG ($311.75)
Hero ($200.00)
MP1 ($101.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $5, UTG calls $5, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($29) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, MP2 folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $48</font>,

[sobos]

very tough hand. Most players raise TT utg and 6688 are somewhat unlikely given you have a 6 and an 8. 97 is a possibility. This looks like a combo draw to me...something like 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. You're about even money with the combo draws and way behind 66/88/97/TT and slightly ahead of A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] . JJQQKKAA might play this way, but it's unlikely. I'd fold.

[effang]

i just call here. prob will have to give up on the turn, with so many scare cards and you drawing thin.

[zman2245]

effang, what do you do on turn -
-not a scare card, villain bets
-scare card, villain bets (probably fold)
-any of the above and villain checks

[insanity31]

Obviously hes pretty horrible if he minraises on that board. I would have folded to a strong raise, but who knows what these guys minraise with on bodog. Id probably rule out sets from his range... most likely a flush draw or a ten. I would almost always call in this spot and just see what falls on the turn.

[eof]

against a good player its probably right to push unless he knows you aren't betting a draw. against a bad player, i think calling and sweating the turn is good. they are out of position so its going to be tough for them to bluff you in their mind, i think they are checking most hands you beat and betting big most hands that beat you, assuming it bricks.. essentially you force them to define their hand on the turn

[Renton]

i think im all in

[BT2]

fold pre