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Old 08-09-2007, 01:30 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set in trouble??? $11s

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Pre-flop action indicates that KK is really not an option from either of these guys. You're behind 44, that's it.

Anyways, instacall all day long & twice on Sunday.

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I think the minraiser sometimes has KK here, although not very often. I wouldn't necessarily take it completely out of his possible holdings.

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Well right, but unless we have a 4 way all-in coming then he doesn't. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
I assumed he folded.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Bottom set in trouble??? $11s

I fold sets all the time but nah don't fold this one
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: Bottom set in trouble??? $11s

If your opponents range was exactly 44, KK, AK, you prolly would think you weren't doing very good. You might think you are a 2:1 dog. However, there are 3 ways for each of KK, 44, and 12 for him to have AK, so 6 times you are crushed and 12 times you crush (he can't have AK and the flush draw). You are about a 2:1 favorite, so shove it in all day. A more realistic range would include KQ, AA and flush draws and take into account that he folds KQ, AK, AA sometimes (people don't fold flush draws too often at low limit sngs).
Bottomline: POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH IT
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:05 AM
tafokints tafokints is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set in trouble??? $11s

It was actually a relatively easy call, but my question would be what level stakes would you guys even consider a fold?
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: Bottom set in trouble??? $11s

U dont fold a set on a non flush board. Folding top two pair is another thing on flop is another thing IMO.
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