General set advice searched

[Hattifnatt]

if you c/r, 450 seems fine. if you bet 100 he raises to 350, make it 950 or so, pushing is fine as well.

if you bet/call, c/r all-in on turn. I think thats a good line as well.

[recallme]

Isn`t b/c c/r turn dangerous, because he could check behind?

[d2themfi]

I mean it really doesnt matter whether you try to c/r or b/3b the flop or occasionally just c/c. What matters is how u play other hands on similar boards. What do you do with draws on the first hand? What do you do with say aj on the second hand? Im not asking you to state what you do, but what im saying is that an opponent shouldnt be able to tell the difference when you have a draw and when you have a set, or when you have top pair medium kicker, or a set. With all these types of hands, you should theoretically have all the ricks up ur sleeve. WIth a draw you should be able to c/r, b/3b, and c/c, and the same with a set, middle pair, and top pair. Now obv you dont want to be c/r and b/3b with middle pair and top pair very often, but to be truely unexploitable you would have to do it once in a while. And while it may be -Ev, for the metagame it is +++EV for sure. ANd Im sure at 10-20 there is a lot of metagame situations.

[Hattifnatt]

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Isn`t b/c c/r turn dangerous, because he could check behind?

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he will often put you on a draw and make a bet to protect him hand, then when you c/r he will probably feel committed if he had some kind of high PP or something.

if he checks behind its not that much of a disaster since you will often get value on the river when you bet or even c/r.

also, he might have air and bet the turn where he shoulda folded if you had bet.

so the downsides of risk of giving a free card is far less than the upsides imo.

[recallme]

[/ QUOTE ]also, he might have air and bet the turn where he shoulda folded if you had bet.

so the downsides of risk of giving a free card is far less than the upsides imo.

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Isn`t exactly this a good reason for the c/r line?
I doubt a PFR will often raise a bet with air, that means we miss value.

[HonkDonk]

to this point (and i think it will be the final result) the most would play c/r.

So I think you should choose b/3bet or b/c lead turn.