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Old 08-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Two hands @ 10/20, party, deepstack, standard?

I've been taking shots at 10/20 and so far noticed significant changes, people are much more aggro and can read your soul sometimes, ugh. It feels like the game is so different that I need to stop and question some yet so far "standard" moves.

The villain is the same in both hands and has been limping weak and limp-folding sometimes, and other times just folded to a c-bet. Mostly he has been pretty passive and he's running at 19/8/0,9/29% (VPIP/PFR/TOTAL AF/WTSD) over 333 hands.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $3,489.50
BB: $2,830.00
UTG: $1,000.00
CO: $6,477.00
Hero (BTN): $2,006.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $20.00, CO calls $20.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $111.00</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $91.00

Flop: ($272) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $210.00</font>, CO calls $210.00

Turn: ($692) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $440.00</font>, CO calls $440.00

River: ($1572) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets all-in for $5,716.00</font>

Here I immidiately put him on a flush, which an ace high beats me but would he really play a low flush like this? Could he have been slowplaying JT and didnt see the point in raising the turn since the flush came and now filled up?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $882.10
BB: $3,977.00
UTG: $3,995.00
MP: $2,030.00
Hero (CO): $3,455.00
BTN: $1,399.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $60.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $60.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($150) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $80.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $220.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $560.00</font>, Hero calls $340.00

Turn: ($1270) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $1,140.00</font>

Pot Size: $2,410.00

I've just raised another guys flop bet where I also had a pocket pair and he has seen me doing this. I dont know if it has any impact on how he plays but w/o reads I put him on a set. Although why bet so big on the turn?

Hero hurries up and folds?
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:24 PM
SEABEAST SEABEAST is offline
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Default Re: Two hands @ 10/20, party, deepstack, standard?

hand 2 is shocking, raising the flop at all is marginal but then calling a reraise vs a 19/8 is just horrifying

hand 1 is real tough but i think you have to call because he could be valuebetting worse (its less than PSB and you will check behind but might call AK etc)
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Two hands @ 10/20, party, deepstack, standard?

Thank you for your insight but why dont you like a raise on the flop? Dont you think we'll get value from many PPs that hasnt setted as well an occasional AK (his WTSD is kinda high 29%)?

I actually kinda lost when it comes to those situations. I've just seen a really aggro game at 10/20 and decided to be aggro myself, although I might wanna motivate the aggression first [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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