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Old 08-08-2007, 01:34 AM
AnthonyH AnthonyH is offline
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Default 200 NL Bottom set troubles

Comments on turn play? River is worse, hoped to get to cheap showdown, villan obviously not complying. Villan is a solid regular. What do you evaluate his range to be on the turn? On the river?

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BB ($203.80)
Hero ($396.70)
MP ($21.65)
CO ($255.50)
Button ($371.85)
SB ($473)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, Button calls $14.

Turn: ($47) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $92</font>, Hero calls $60.

River: ($231) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $154</font>
Final Pot: $385
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

i need more info on your history with villian, how does he view you etc. what does he run at aggro factor
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

without numbers, its hard to say what his range is. but barring something very anomolous in villains vpip/af, im shoving this turn every time. i dont think you have to worry about AQ very much. KQ/KJ are good candidates for what villain might have. KK/JJ/TT look really unlikely, as most solid regs are 3betting this preflop.

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Old 08-08-2007, 01:42 AM
Cue-Ball 66 Cue-Ball 66 is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

I was gonna say exactly that dragon...but just noticed they're 200BB deep. I probably push turn though.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

I would push turn and say gg to TT.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

I don;t think tt is in his range here
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

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I would push turn and say gg to TT.

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Old 08-08-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

Pushing turn is a bit of an overbet though.. I raise to 197 and call shove on turn. Villain likely has JT/KJ/KT here when he just calls preflop. JJ/TT probably don't call here, and Q9/AQ maybe call but I doubt it.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:02 AM
AnthonyH AnthonyH is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

In hindsight folding turn to the RR is probably best. That seems so weak though. Is this a really read/image dependant hand?
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL Bottom set troubles

How is folding turn the best? I'd put his most likely holdings after the preflop call, flop call and turn raise as JT/KJ/KQ. I would think bigger sets tend to 3bet preflop.
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