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Old 08-07-2007, 08:10 PM
SquishyPeach SquishyPeach is offline
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Default NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

Villain is 26/15 over 110 hands...What do you do on this flop???

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Hero (SB): $114.10
BB: $100.00
UTG: $100.00
CO: $33.65
BTN: $171.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.50</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $8.00

Flop: ($24) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $40.00</font>???????
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:43 PM
Bramsterdam Bramsterdam is offline
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

I usually get it in here (coz of the draws), allthough BTN always shows up with JJ/TT in these spots.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:31 PM
Mat Cauthon Mat Cauthon is offline
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

I would fold. You have few outs, or are about 50-50 to win most of the time.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

In a 3bet pot I shove here
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

allin
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:08 PM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

*grunch* I call and reevaluate. I was watching some of the videos on our master sticky and I'm now convinced that all of our opponents are fish. haha.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:10 PM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

I don't know if shoving is right. There are alot of draws on this board, but JJ-1010 seem awful likely here. If he's not drawing, the only hand we beat that he plays like this is queens. I'm not 100% on how I feel in this situation.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:11 PM
Gummihuhn Gummihuhn is offline
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

I think Villain often puts you on AQ or AK and maybe thought that you didnt hit...sure there is a chance that he flopped a set but theres also a chance that he hold QQ or some other garbage... i think i would shove here
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

You're forgetting a number after that 26/15 which makes a huge difference here. A call is better than a push but a fold could be in order depending on villain's previous aggression.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK on draw heavy flop vs button raiser

i think if you make ur 3-bet bigger and bet more on the flop it makes shoving fine.
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