Too Close to call...a clear fold or not?

[Xhad]

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As far as preflop goes, it says in SSHE to call a raise w/ QJs if there are 3 players (the raiser and two others) in front of you.

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I think it's talking about callers in front of you.

[Nick D]

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As far as preflop goes, it says in SSHE to call a raise w/ QJs if there are 3 players (the raiser and two others) in front of you.

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I think it's talking about callers in front of you.

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haha, yeah. that's why I said "in front of you." [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Bravos - 90 out of 6074 hands or 1.5%...too high? This is something I never looked at, but probably a huge leak if this is too high..thanks for pointing it out to me.

[bravos1]

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As far as preflop goes, it says in SSHE to call a raise w/ QJs if there are 3 players (the raiser and two others) in front of you.

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I think it's talking about callers in front of you.

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haha, yeah. that's why I said "in front of you." [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Bravos - 90 out of 6074 hands or 1.5%...too high? This is something I never looked at, but probably a huge leak if this is too high..thanks for pointing it out to me.

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Seems pretty high... I've cold called 87 times from my last 33427 hands of FR.

[Thomas Newton]

Don't cold call in these spots Nick.
If you think he's stealing, pop it. If you don't, fold.

Remember you are not just playing against the weak end of his range. You can be virtually drawing dead against a raiser with an easily dominated hand like this.

Have a look at p.61 SSHE again.

[Brain]

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As far as preflop goes, it says in SSHE to call a raise w/ QJs if there are 3 players (the raiser and two others) in front of you.

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I think it's talking about callers in front of you.

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haha, yeah. that's why I said "in front of you." [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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So how many are there in front of you? Hint: It's zero.

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Bravos - 90 out of 6074 hands or 1.5%...too high? This is something I never looked at, but probably a huge leak if this is too high..thanks for pointing it out to me.

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I have 94 CCs in ~63k hands. Granted, I'm tighter than most (and especially behind a raise), but this is an order of magnitude in difference.

[boss]

With respect to the flop decision the pot is roughly laying the same odds at both decision points, 1:8 (fisrt time) vs 1:7 (second time).

You have 4 outs to the nuts and 1,5 outs for the BDFD --> you need ~47:1,5 --> 8,5:1 to call. Implied odds would you hit are probably favorable. SB is all-in eliminating the risk of a raising war.

--> We call again?

[BigBadBabar]

lol @ 3bet this pf

[MrWookie]

Nick,

In SSH, Ed Miller suggests that optimal cold calling percentage is about 0.5%. That percentage was given for games considerably looser than most games online now. Perhaps 2c/4c is still this loose, but mostly, games this loose are only found live. In games in the current online environment, you should be cold calling considerably less than this, and yet you're doing it about three times as often. This is a significant leak that should be plugged immediately.

[Bulletproof Monk]

fold preflop

and i coldcall quite a bit