How many times do u cbet in this spot? - Page 2

Arctic · #11 08-06-2007, 08:20 AM

I think c-betting here is like burning money.

Fiksdal · #12 08-06-2007, 08:22 AM

I never cbet here readless. most pairs/draws are playing with you on this board. try to get a free card.

Panic__NL · #13 08-06-2007, 08:23 AM

in a 3way pot OOP on a flop that is very likely to have missed you on NL10 against 1 fishy player, i cbet here like never. You get so many times a call that it doesnot seem profitable to cbet here.

takingcontrol · #14 08-06-2007, 08:56 AM

I wouldnt cbet this board into two opponents, if you get a call you wont know if you're ahead, but you'll still have to fold the turn readless.

corsakh · #15 08-06-2007, 09:39 AM

Its both one of the best flops you can hope for and you have the best hand. Yet I almost never cbet into two people.

Sordini · #16 08-06-2007, 10:20 AM

You CB will have lower fold equity than normal here. c/f verus TAG/LAG/FISH

selector2006 · #17 08-06-2007, 05:43 PM

I'm kicking this one because I'm still thinking about it.

I've payed a closer look to the hands that my opponents at 25NL call with UTG. I can be short about that: garbage.

Q9o, T9o, KJ, 45, A8o are hands I see. And ofcourse all good hands call too. But overall with AQ you're ahead on most flops even of you miss.

I think a c-bet against 2 opponents, even if you're OOP, is +EV.

selector2006 · #18 08-06-2007, 05:49 PM

I want to add this: I like it when my opponents float me and play back at me. I love it when they do it when i have AQ and I miss the flop. The see I fold easy to aggression.

And then I get AK and hit the flop. The again play back at me, and I win a nice pot:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($7.20)
Button ($25.85)
Hero ($45.40)
BB ($31.25)
UTG ($18.40)
MP ($25.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $1.

Flop: ($3) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $11, Button calls $7.

Turn: ($25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button folds.

Final Pot: $25

Hero wins $25

Bottom line: I'll be happy to lose 2 or 3 small pots if I win one big one in return.

ICMoney · #19 08-06-2007, 06:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I want to add this: I like it when my opponents float me and play back at me. I love it when they do it when i have AQ and I miss the flop. The see I fold easy to aggression.

And then I get AK and hit the flop. The again play back at me, and I win a nice pot:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($7.20)
Button ($25.85)
Hero ($45.40)
BB ($31.25)
UTG ($18.40)
MP ($25.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $1.

Flop: ($3) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $11, Button calls $7.

Turn: ($25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button folds.

Final Pot: $25

Hero wins $25

Bottom line: I'll be happy to lose 2 or 3 small pots if I win one big one in return.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you 3b only when you hit, I'm sure you're opponents love when you are so predictable too. They will just min raise you every time and fold to your turn bet if you continue until you adjust.

You can't always fold to these min raises (not saying that you always do).

ICMoney · #20 08-06-2007, 06:50 PM

Btn is probably calling with some pocket pair some suited connector.

This flop might have hit him.

My initial thought was to fire 4 or 4.5 but maybe it's better to bet the turn if a higher blank rolls.