Problems overplaying KK??

[sluggger5x]

I made a downswing post a few days ago and everybody said that my big leak is completely overplaying overpairs and tptk. How do these look?? Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $0
UTG+1: $86.35
CO: $304.65
Button: $50.65
SB: $54.45
sluggger5x: $56.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) sluggger5x is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $6</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $36</font>, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises all-in $50.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $12.45</font>.
Uncalled bets: $2.3 returned to sluggger5x.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($111.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $108.9, Sidepot 1: $2.3)


River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($111.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $108.9, Sidepot 1: $2.3)


Results:
Final pot: $111.2 Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $66.10
UTG+1: $129.65
CO: $72.05
Button: $32.95
sluggger5x: $64.65
BB: $76.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) sluggger5x is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises to $2.5</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $21.5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">sluggger5x raises all-in $62.15</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($132.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $132.3)


River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($132.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $132.3)


Results:
Final pot: $132.3

[Worm75]

against air these look fine, would help if you had some info on the villains

[Poseidon65]

These overbet situations are never easy IMO. The first hand is a much bigger overbet than the second. In my experience (only 25k hands, so not a lifetime), an overbet like this usually has one pair beat.

I can find a fold int he second hand, with 3 to the flop and 2 picture cards out there, KK doesn't look so juicy to me when I've been overbet like that.

In the first hand, after he makes the raise, I think we can reliably put his range on AA, KK, QQ, JJ and AJ. I'm not sure how KK performs vs. this range (need to get pokerstove).

[jessyj07]

The first one is fine/standard and very uninteresting. The second is interesting. A read would help, esp. if you could figure out if he'd reraise JJ. Then you only lose to 22/QJ/JJ because most people reraise QQ and some people won't call QJ OOP and then you're losing to 1 or 2 hands and I don't usually fold an overpair when I only lose to 1 or 2 hands.

[KEW]

Hand #1 BvB I get AI here with little thought..

Hand # 2 is troublesome...OOP I want a larger PF to $3-3.50...Stronger bet(6.50-7.00) on the flop..BB could be reading your about 1/2 PSB as weakness and be overvalueing TP(likely AQ)..A stronger bet defines our hand more...As played I call the raise and re-eval turn..Absent a read I do not think I can find a fold...JJ/QQ likely 3 bet PF and JQ likely fold leaving only 22 to fear..With another player to act and no FD I think most villain would slowplay a set in this spot..

[JROK777]

Hand 1. As played,go AI. As a side, if villian had limped called PF, would this be a fold?

Hand 2. I fold. Villian has QJ or a set. If he wanted to play a draw fast he'd b3b AI.