N50 Flush draw on flop

sakrei · #1 08-05-2007, 08:48 PM

Standard? No reads really, just sat.
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saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($19.25)
MP2 ($14.60)
MP3 ($38)
CO ($61.10)
Button ($35.40)
Hero ($51.15)
BB ($74.40)
UTG ($43.95)
UTG+1 ($17.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 raises to $1.5, CO calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.25, BB calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $4, MP2 calls $3.50, MP3 calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($24) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $13.5 (All-In), MP2 folds, MP3 calls $13.50, CO folds, Hero calls $13.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($0) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

River: ($0) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $20.5, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: $64.50

RyanCMU · #2 08-05-2007, 08:50 PM

I just fold on the flop.

SABR42 · #3 08-05-2007, 08:51 PM

Fold flop.

FreshMeat · #4 08-05-2007, 08:56 PM

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with 4:1 pot odds on flop? why play this hand if you are going to fold decent FD's?

SABR42 · #5 08-05-2007, 08:59 PM

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with 4:1 pot odds on flop? why play this hand if you are going to fold decent FD's?

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This is not a decent draw at all.

The board is already paired, so if another Q or 2 comes off, you're dead no matter what. Someone could also have a higher flush draw. This is a horrible spot to call off with a flush draw.

sakrei · #6 08-05-2007, 09:02 PM

alright, i have never been in this spot before with a low suitted connector, i just recently opened up my range to them, thx for input

FreshMeat · #7 08-05-2007, 09:21 PM

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with 4:1 pot odds on flop? why play this hand if you are going to fold decent FD's?

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This is not a decent draw at all.

The board is already paired, so if another Q or 2 comes off, you're dead no matter what. Someone could also have a higher flush draw. This is a horrible spot to call off with a flush draw.

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yeah but the Qspades and 2spades are aleady on board so you cant make a flush while adding another queen or duece. and our oppponent almost certainly does not have a duece, and even if he has a queen, he has to catch another one after we catch a spade.... why are we afraid of a full house here? and do we play suited connecters to make flushes to then just turn around and be afraid of higher flushes?

things arent perfect here for sure, but man...

GAMBOOL!!!!

FreshMeat · #8 08-05-2007, 09:22 PM

thanks