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Old 08-05-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

Villain was playing 44/38/4.4. Previous to this hand I had raised twice, he had called me OOP on both occasions and check-raised me on ragged flops. I folded both hands.

Hand 1:
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $506.40
BB: $376.80
Hero (UTG): $400.00
CO: $394
BTN: $874.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $48.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $32.00

Flop: ($102) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $48.00</font>, Hero calls $48.00

Turn: ($198) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($198) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $160.00</font>, Hero folds

Hand 2:
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $578.40
BB: $430.80
Hero (UTG): $400.00
MP: $392
CO: $376.00
BTN: $921.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $48.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $32.00

Flop: ($102) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($102) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($102) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $80.00</font>, Hero...?

I remember Brian Townsend saying once that he's sometimes willing to get it all-in preflop with hands as weak as TT against the right opponent. What would be a better line for hand 1 and do you call the river on hand 2?
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

bump.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

In the first hand I feel that his river bet clearly polarizes his range between strong hands (a pair of kings or better) and bluffs. Since a 44/38 has a lot of air in his range I would call the river.

On the second hand I would probably fold preflop, but as played I would call the river. That said, if you do decide to fold it isn't necessarily terrible because he will observe this and bluff you with ever increasing frequency which should give you the opportunity to trap him for stacks.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

Your play is way too passive post on both. your lines on both show weakness.
On 1, I expect him to cbet. His bet is the same as his preflop bet. Does he tend to do this? Its veeeery weak and id C/R him here to 150/160. The second J scares him too. But when you check the riv, he thinks his small pr is good.

On 2, a 5 is unlikely. I like a C/R on flop. If checked, im betting turn. If he raises, I might just fold. If called, im checking prob on riv and eval his bet. Could be a call if a fair bet. Id rather keep a smaller pot oop with a mediocre hand if my c/r doesnt work.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

Like triv said, id prob fold preflop too on hand 2.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

Why? Cos you think there isn't the implied odds to call?
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

ugh, why do people insist on changing 50NL hands into 400NL?!?!?
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: 2 Hands Against LAG Maniac

also, call the river in hand one.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:19 PM
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Since you're very uncomfortable on any board outside of one containing a four and moreover this chap is highly unlikely to give you a cheap showdown, this is just a really bad hand to hold out of position against an aggressive foe. Add to that the fact that his range is monstrously wide, which means you're not necessarily getting paid off should you flop a set, and I think we have a fairly clear fold.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:19 PM
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ugh, why do people insist on changing 50NL hands into 400NL?!?!?

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