What do I do with TT??

[Crazy Porto]

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My friend posted this and is a douchebag for not posting the buyin. It was a 16

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then it's a fold [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[allhappythoughts]

I'm leaning towards the shove, personally.

[DeuceSeven]

This is read dependent. Readless at a 6.50 I shove, don't know about 16s. The looser villains raising range the easier a shove is, ldo.

[TwistedEcho]

Id have a read, but without one i shove. The coldcaller has a worse hand than you pretty much always, so his dead money makes it much better

[martinimagic]

How about a spin on this since I am actually starting to think a little better at the tables these days? What if you have a good read on say 5-6 players other than the villain? And you feel confident you can outplay these 5-6 people?

First thought in my head when reading this was how comfortable do you feel about the skill at the table? If I am reading a lot of donks at the table I wait for hand against one of them. Does this make any sense?

[DeuceSeven]

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How about a spin on this since I am actually starting to think a little better at the tables these days? What if you have a good read on say 5-6 players other than the villain? And you feel confident you can outplay these 5-6 people?

First thought in my head when reading this was how comfortable do you feel about the skill at the table? If I am reading a lot of donks at the table I wait for hand against one of them. Does this make any sense?

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Problem is in a turbo you can't really "outplay" anyone since the blinds go up so fast. So you take +EV situations when you get them. If by "outplay" you mean play better icm then others, I don't know if you can find many plays better then shoving here.

[AMT]

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How about a spin on this since I am actually starting to think a little better at the tables these days? What if you have a good read on say 5-6 players other than the villain? And you feel confident you can outplay these 5-6 people?

First thought in my head when reading this was how comfortable do you feel about the skill at the table? If I am reading a lot of donks at the table I wait for hand against one of them. Does this make any sense?

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Problem is in a turbo you can't really "outplay" anyone since the blinds go up so fast. So you take +EV situations when you get them. If by "outplay" you mean play better icm then others, I don't know if you can find many plays better then shoving here.

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yeah, not to be a symantical bastard here but outplaying people in the context of tournaments IS taking the biggest advantage(s) of +EV opportunities as they arise aka not missing +EV ones and not taking -EV ones.


anyways id probably shove readless here.