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#1
08-03-2007, 11:19 AM
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$6.50 blind v blind trips line check
Thoughts on this please. Villain hasn't done anything out of the ordinary, didn't like what I did on the turn, but I can't see what mindonks and then more or less min 3-bets my raise other than another six. Looking for a non-results oriented opinion as villain claims to have had A6.
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t120/t240 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t1750 Button: t4270 SB: t4005 Hero: t3475 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, SB calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t360)</font>, Hero checks. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t480, 2 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t240</font>, SB calls t240 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t720)</font>. Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t960, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets t240</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t1000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t2000</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t1000 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: t2960 
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#2
08-03-2007, 11:25 AM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
i really don't like it. i'm getting in on the turn for sure. double up gives us super shorty, shorty, and mid-stack on bubble while we've got the big stack, and i don't see you behind most of the time. i'd expect, in a 6.50, for him to roll like Q9 or Q7 and you ship the pot like 92-100% of the time.
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#3
08-03-2007, 11:57 AM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
there is no way that i am folding this. put it this way if the villian had A6 wouldnt a raise be exspected. if he does have a better 6 then its a cooler and fire up the next game. I agree with chuck i would exspect a Q especially Q7 in this spot.
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#4
08-03-2007, 12:10 PM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
^^ Agreed. Here's my non-results oriented opinion: Especially once you put in that raise for 1000 on the turn, you CANNOT fold. If you were really worried about your hand, you should aim to keep the pot small. Your hand is way too strong for that though. You put over a third of your stack in and you have not reason to not be willing to get all in.
This is a concept borrowed from PNL, but I think it is very applicable to SNGs when you aren't push/folding. Once you put a third of your stack into the pot, you have committed yourself. You'll be getting 2-1 for the rest of your stack, so folding is very often a mistake (With a few exceptions, obviously). So if you really thought you would be beat if all the money went in, aim to keep the pot small. (Although I do think you are ahead of your opponents range when all the money goes in here)
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#5
08-03-2007, 12:44 PM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
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So if you really thought you would be beat if all the money went in, aim to keep the pot small. [/ QUOTE ] I see what you're saying, but I only thought I was beat when I got 3-bet on the turn, and by then the pot isn't small any more. At that stage, I thought it'd be better to keep the 8BB's or so I have left and outlast the guy who's got a bit less and having the blinds hit him.
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#6
08-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
Trips + Blind battle + $6.50 = NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER press that fold button.
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#7
08-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
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[ QUOTE ] So if you really thought you would be beat if all the money went in, aim to keep the pot small. [/ QUOTE ] I see what you're saying, but I only thought I was beat when I got 3-bet on the turn, and by then the pot isn't small any more. At that stage, I thought it'd be better to keep the 8BB's or so I have left and outlast the guy who's got a bit less and having the blinds hit him. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe so. You'd have to do an ICM calculation to figure it out. The point I was trying to get across is that you need to think about planning the hand on the flop. If you thought that a big raise meant you were beat, you should keep the pot small. It makes folding a lot easier, and the villain gains less of your dead money that gets trapped in the pot.
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#8
08-03-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
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Trips + Blind battle + $6.50 = NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER press that fold button. [/ QUOTE ] seriously. take it from experience that we're trying to pass down... don't fold ever.
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#9
08-03-2007, 02:30 PM
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Re: $6.50 blind v blind trips line check
Never fold this. This could be all kinds of stuff that you beat. You played it perfect until you folded the turn.
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