55$ turbo it's a bad call ?

[pokerman777]

it's a bad call? if bad what is your calling range here?

Seat 1: tonni2704 ($3,960 in chips)
Seat 5: hero ($1,705 in chips)
Seat 6: Zandinga ($1,575 in chips)
Seat 8: barbaman ($6,515 in chips)
Seat 10: armata70 ($1,245 in chips)

hero has [ QD,3H ]

ANTES/BLINDS
tonni2704 posts blind ($300), hero posts blind ($600).

PRE-FLOP
Zandinga folds, barbaman folds, armata70 folds, tonni2704 bets $3,660 and is all-in, hero calls $1,105 and is all-in

[ymu]

Villain has a very healthy stack and no need to risk donking off nearly half of it with a push - there are 3 very short stacks left and he will have no desire to switch places with one of them. I doubt he's pushing that loose.

You have 4.5BB left after folding, and a chance to pick up some next hand if you get to push your SB.

Both the other shorties are worse off than you and will hit the blinds again before you do. Also, one is pushing into a huge stack immediately to his left and the other gets huge stack as SB in his BB. Huge stack is BB on your button, but at least you have a shortie to steal back from and a medium stack to your right who won't want to risk too much.

I'd call pretty tight here - maybe 99+, AJ+. Possibly tighter - depending on villain('s range) and if I thought I had donk equity from the other players doing something stupid before I have to.

[pokerman777]

i had only 1.85 bb after folding!!! blinds 300-600

[rakemeplz]

IMO ez call

[ymu]

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i had only 1.85 bb after folding!!! blinds 300-600

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Oops - misread the blinds as 300. Sorry!

Yes, you probably do have to call - the other shorties are in a terrible spot next, but they both have to get knocked out instead of doubled up in the next 4 hands for you to have a realistic chance of ITM. Better to take this now and have a shot at better than 3rd if you double up.

[mortimo]

Looks good
How wide should we call?

[ymu]

You have to call with ATC here.

[pokerman777]

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You have to call with ATC here.

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disagree top 70% max here.

[ymu]

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You have to call with ATC here.

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disagree top 70% max here.

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Even allowing for ICM overvaluing short stacks?

We're in the SB next with 0.85BB to push with. I can't see us having a much better chance of doubling next hand than calling with ATC here . We're HU now against a random SB hand - next hand could have an EP raiser or, given than we're so short, 3 big stack limpers.

If we get lucky this hand we draw clear of the other shorties, instead of having to get lucky next hand to have any shot at outlasting both of them. I think it's ATC.