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Old 08-01-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default HOH 3 to Cash Games

I'm reading HOH3 - really liking it.

I'm trying to decide how directly these concept tie to cash games. Basically, I think that as long as M's are high, the concepts should transfer pretty well.

For example, Problem 29:

Blinds = 1500/3000

SB = 400,000 stack, BB = 200,000

Folded to aggressive SB (Ivey) who raises to 3.5 BB.

BB (you) have K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] - you call another 8,000.

Pot = 26,500.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB bets 16,000, BB calls.

Pot = 58,500

Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB bets 35,000, BB pushes.

Given the same variables, is this still a good line in cash games?
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:01 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: HOH 3 to Cash Games

if the deck has 2 8 of hearts sure
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: HOH 3 to Cash Games

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if the deck has 2 8 of hearts sure

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lol, no normal deck - BB has a 9h, not 8h.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: HOH 3 to Cash Games

Sure, you just picked up a bunch more outs here on the turn, and it is a big semi-bluff move that can often take the pot down right there.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: HOH 3 to Cash Games

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Sure, you just picked up a bunch more outs here on the turn, and it is a big semi-bluff move that can often take the pot down right there.

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Right - I think it's a good move.

I guess my basic question is do all the HOH 3 problems apply to cash games unless their are short stacks involved?

IOW, does a play like this semi-bluff hand have the same fold equity in cash games and tournies given all other factors are equal?

Or is there a rule of thumb for identical situations like FE(tourney) = FE(cash) + x% ?
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:36 PM
Felix Felicis Felix Felicis is offline
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Default Re: HOH 3 to Cash Games

66 BBs isn't very much.

In a cash game, where there isn't pressure to accumulate because of escalating blinds, I would fold the suited K pre-flop. However, if I had 300,000 I may very well call. I don't know, I just don't think there is much value in suited kings that are easily dominated hands.
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:53 PM
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66 BBs isn't very much.

In a cash game, where there isn't pressure to accumulate because of escalating blinds, I would fold the suited K pre-flop. However, if I had 300,000 I may very well call. I don't know, I just don't think there is much value in suited kings that are easily dominated hands.

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You wouldn't call in position against an aggressive player? I would. You're not all that likely to be dominated at all. You have one king! That cuts how many combos with kings he can have.
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