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08-01-2007, 12:35 PM
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Re: 10-25 NLHE: Bottom set gets action
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[ QUOTE ] Like Renton said, with 50 bets, stack off here every single time. [/ QUOTE ] I called. Thankfully, tight local pro folded top 2. Once he did, I was getting 5:1 on a 3:1 shot. Turn was a blank, but the river was a ten. NFL showed Q9 for the nuts on the flop. Tight local pro cursed that dang ten! [/ QUOTE ] um, why would you want him to fold? by folding your odds got worse...and you're being results oriented. i would never want top two to fold to my set lol. am i missing something? 
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#12
08-01-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: 10-25 NLHE: Bottom set gets action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Like Renton said, with 50 bets, stack off here every single time. [/ QUOTE ] I called. Thankfully, tight local pro folded top 2. Once he did, I was getting 5:1 on a 3:1 shot. Turn was a blank, but the river was a ten. NFL showed Q9 for the nuts on the flop. Tight local pro cursed that dang ten! [/ QUOTE ] um, why would you want him to fold? by folding your odds got worse...and you're being results oriented. i would never want top two to fold to my set lol. am i missing something? [/ QUOTE ] Because now the two remaining tens and two remaining jacks our outs for the hero instead of villian2... If he had called hero would be drawing to a 1 outer basically, then might pick up some more outs on the turn.
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#13
08-01-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: 10-25 NLHE: Bottom set gets action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Like Renton said, with 50 bets, stack off here every single time. [/ QUOTE ] I called. Thankfully, tight local pro folded top 2. Once he did, I was getting 5:1 on a 3:1 shot. Turn was a blank, but the river was a ten. NFL showed Q9 for the nuts on the flop. Tight local pro cursed that dang ten! [/ QUOTE ] um, why would you want him to fold? by folding your odds got worse...and you're being results oriented. i would never want top two to fold to my set lol. am i missing something? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. If NFL has a straight (which is certainly in his range and exactly what he had), I need to boat up to win. Bottom set v. Top 2 v. straight means bottom set has max 1 out on the turn and max 4 outs on the river = ~10% equity. If top 2 folds, now bottom set v. straight has 5 outs on turn and 8 outs on river = ~26% equity. Getting 5:1 on the call, 1 situation is a fold and the other is a call.
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#14
08-01-2007, 02:57 PM
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Re: 10-25 NLHE: Bottom set gets action
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Like Renton said, with 50 bets, stack off here every single time. [/ QUOTE ] I called. Thankfully, tight local pro folded top 2. Once he did, I was getting 5:1 on a 3:1 shot. Turn was a blank, but the river was a ten. NFL showed Q9 for the nuts on the flop. Tight local pro cursed that dang ten! [/ QUOTE ] um, why would you want him to fold? by folding your odds got worse...and you're being results oriented. i would never want top two to fold to my set lol. am i missing something? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. If NFL has a straight (which is certainly in his range and exactly what he had), I need to boat up to win. Bottom set v. Top 2 v. straight means bottom set has max 1 out on the turn and max 4 outs on the river = ~10% equity. If top 2 folds, now bottom set v. straight has 5 outs on turn and 8 outs on river = ~26% equity. Getting 5:1 on the call, 1 situation is a fold and the other is a call. [/ QUOTE ] ok, i didn't see stack sizes. i thought you covered everybody, and hence could build a huge sidepot and make off regardless if you were drawing thin to the straight or not.
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#17
08-01-2007, 07:11 PM
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Re: 10-25 NLHE: Bottom set gets action
Preflop is ok, flop lead is good.
IDK how you could even consider NOT putting in your last $500.
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