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Old 08-01-2007, 02:11 PM
awjpoker awjpoker is offline
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Default Can i fold this river?

I flop 2 pair with a weak Ace and am pretty certain all the way through he has a "better" Ace but not that great. On the river i hate the ten and after his bet am pretty certain he just hit a better 2 pair. Any comments on the hand and can you fold this? Could i play it differently or is this just a 3 outer that came in. My hope was he had AK or AQ and thought he was betting for value but i felt it unlikely based on previous action.

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Button is in seat 1
Total number of players: 5

Seat 1: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($200,00)
Seat 3: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($301,59)
Seat 6: <font color="#000000">BB</font> ($225,60)
Seat 8: <font color="#000000">UTG</font> ($310,00)
Seat 10: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($233,55)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $1,00
<font color="#000000">BB</font> posts big blind of $2,00

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> folds
<font color="#000000">CO</font> folds
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $7,00
<font color="#000000">SB</font> calls $6,00
<font color="#000000">BB</font> folds


Dealing flop 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Pot is: $16,00

<font color="#000000">SB</font> checks
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> bets $12,00
<font color="#000000">SB</font> calls $12,00


Dealing turn 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Pot is: $40,00

<font color="#000000">SB</font> checks
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> bets $28,00
<font color="#000000">SB</font> calls $28,00


Dealing river T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Pot is: $96,00

<font color="#000000">SB</font> bets $52,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $52,00
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:14 PM
early325 early325 is offline
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

No, you can't fold this river.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:14 PM
zaephyr zaephyr is offline
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

getting 3:1 here i call, this can easly be "slowplayed" A3 or even A6 or AQ/AK as u said.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:27 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

Why would you want to?
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:19 PM
awjpoker awjpoker is offline
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

Ok good i did call but felt so strong that he had just rivered AT i felt like folding.

and for the record he did river AT for a better 2 pair but probably overall the call was still correct. One other question was my bet sizing on flop and turn ok? I was trying to get maximum value out of the exact type of hand he had and he just got lucky that time i think.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:28 PM
Spanga7 Spanga7 is offline
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

Your bet values were spot on. I always favor large bets with 2 pair...more 3/4th pot than 2/3rd pot, which you did well.
Part of me agrees that you have to call the river with those odds..

That being said, if you have any read on the player it'd be most helpful. If he's not a terrible player, then his line shows tremendous strength on the end. It seems to me pretty obvious that you're beat, in fact I might take the worst of it 1:3 in a bet that you're beat. Either flopped a set or hit A10, but who check calls all the way and then leads out at the end? VERY few people do that with A3 here.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

I think you played the hand fine. Don't worry about it.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

fairly simple hand, standard call, he might have slowplayed a worse 2 pair or a strong ace and is blocking the river or bluffing a missed straight or diamond draw, PLEASE DO NOT FOLD THIS
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

Sorry he had AT.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:50 PM
awjpoker awjpoker is offline
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Default Re: Can i fold this river?

No i never put him on a better hand until the river card hit based on timing tells and the fact he was not that good a player i was pretty sure he would be have exactly like this with and Ace/med kicker. When the ten hit and he bet out that was when i went oh the XXXX just hit that ten to suck out. I think if he had a set he could have bet bigger on te end, at least pot sized.
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