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Old 08-01-2007, 02:03 PM
awjpoker awjpoker is offline
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Default Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

I get into a pot cheap with an ok hand but out of position. My read based on the flop was that a set seemed pretty unlikey as i had one of each of the top two cards in my hand only leaving 22 to worry about. I figured I was possibly up against TT+ overpair as the guy was a bit of a donkey.

What do you think my chances of being good are in this spot?

Villian was 29/15/1.6 but with a pre-flop Aggressions factor of only 1.1 over 60 hands.

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Button is in seat 3
Total number of players: 6

Seat 1: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($218,40)
Seat 3: <font color="#000000">BTN</font> ($42,00)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($198,00)
Seat 6: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($197,00)
Seat 8: <font color="#000000">UTG</font> ($170,95)
Seat 10: <font color="#000000">UTG+1</font> ($274,20)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $1,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> posts big blind of $2,00

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> raises to $4,00
<font color="#000000">UTG+1</font> folds
<font color="#000000">CO</font> calls $4,00
<font color="#000000">BTN</font> folds
<font color="#000000">SB</font> folds
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $2,00


Dealing flop 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Pot is: $13,00

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> checks
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> bets $4,00
<font color="#000000">CO</font> raises to $12,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> calls $12,00
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> folds


Dealing turn J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Pot is: $41,00

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> bets $34,00
<font color="#000000">CO</font> raises to $202,40
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is all-in ($147,00)


Dealing river T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Pot is: $424,40
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:06 PM
zaephyr zaephyr is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

This seems like a stack a donk move from him with sth like JJ+.
Easy call imo.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:16 PM
awjpoker awjpoker is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

Glad you agree, only thing that made me wary was the pre-flop action as most times QQ+ at least will raise but sometimes people get too fancy with big pairs.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

I think it looks fine.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:26 PM
Conan776 Conan776 is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

I might have re-raised CO on the flop. Kill's UTG's money (he would fold here anyway to CO's raise most of the time) and gets more info about CO's hand.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

3 bet the flop, you're giving UTG sick odds to draw and your hand is too vulnerable to slowplay.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:30 PM
Cue-Ball 66 Cue-Ball 66 is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

Def def def 3-bet flop. Calling is suicide here imo.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:35 PM
Hince Hince is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

Calling flop is bad. You represent a draw by calling and kill your action on a lot of turns. You also give UTG really great odds to out draw you.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

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3 bet the flop, you're giving UTG sick odds to draw and your hand is too vulnerable to slowplay.

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yea i completely agree, i am 3 betting this flop to fill up the pot and put draws to the test. I hate peeling more cards on this board. As played i like your line.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:47 PM
JohnAndersen JohnAndersen is offline
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Default Re: Top 2 pair am i good enough times here to call?

everything everyone else said about not raising the flop. Given his low agression factor would he do this with QQ or something other than JJ?
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