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Old 07-31-2007, 01:45 PM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1065)
UTG+1 (t4355)
MP1 (t845)
CO (t2040)
Button (t1640)
SB (t1575)
BB (t1980)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t1065 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

This happened a bunch of times. The blinds will chop like 1/3 of my stack, but there's still 7 players. I thought Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] was good enough to take a shot, but what hands should i be pushing here? If i had a hand like 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] should i just let the blinds chop me and take a shot with 3.5 bb's on the button or what?
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

This is a fold, there are simply too many stacks behind you.

To push you need something like AT+, or a middle PP
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

fold plz
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

This is close, probably a fold in a $6 but pushing isn't much of a mistake at all, i probably would push here.

With antes, its an easy push
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Old 07-31-2007, 10:30 PM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

I would say QTs is marginal but certainly not a clear fold. With a similar situation 6 handed I think QTs is a solid push. 5 handed, and trash like T8o could even come into your range on a tight table. By that time most of the maniac $6 donks are usually out and you are left with the type that make horrible folds on the bubble. I certainly wouldn't advise pushing T8o often though, since one loose caller and it becomes -EV.
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Old 07-31-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

Is there really a clear cut answer for this spot? I find myself in these spots with 33 55 q/10 kj a lot and mostly just push like twisted said.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

You gotta push here. If you take get hit by the blinds you longer have any FE.

QTs isn't such a bad hand against likely calling ranges.

In low limit tournaments you typically have to win 2-3 allins to make the money, because people call so much. Even if you do get called here, you are often flipping which is a good result with your chip stack.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:38 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

I actually pushed and took it down. I understand there's too many stacks behind me, but if i fold and fold the blinds now i'm down to. 755 with 200 blinds and have very little fold equity. This is one of my biggest problems in SNG's cuz i'm not sure how long i should wait for a good hand.

If it was antes yeah i definately push. If my hand was terrible i'd probably fold. Something like A5 is probably bad too because if i'm called i'm probably a big dog. But like QJs, Q/10s, JTs etc give me a pretty good chance. I'm just wondering if this is worse than folding and pushing worse cards with 3.5 bb from the button.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

Given we still have 7 players and your push is commiting 1/2 of anyones stack behind who wishes to call. This leads me to think that villians here are tighter then your normal $6 donks. I think its is a shove in this case but probably the bottom of the range.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Stars $6 Turbo - UTG with short stack, minimum to push?

I might limp RRAI. You will know if you are behind by the fact that someone is raising behind you and if noone raises, you may be able to build a nice pot if you hit.
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