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07-31-2007, 09:55 PM
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Playing AK near the Bubble deepstacked
Hero Seat 1 mit 26507. (Button)
SB Seat 2 mit 20270. BB Seat 3 mit 6811. UTG Seat 4 mit 24010. UTG+1 Seat 5 mit 61695. Villain Seat 6 mit 30450. Cutoff Seat 10 mit 18269. Im on the button with AKo, Blinds 400/800 Pre-Flop: xxx folds. UTG+1 calls 800. Villain calls 800. Cutoff calls 800. Hero raises 3000. SB folds. BB folds. UTG+1 folds. Villain calls 2200. Cutoff calls 2200. Raise too big, Push better EV? Flop (5s 3s Ah): (Pot around 12K) Villain checkt. Cutoff checkt. Hero raises 8000. Villain raises 27350. Cutoff folds. Hero? 
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#2
07-31-2007, 09:56 PM
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Re: Playing AK near the Bubble deepstacked
I'd probably raise to at least 4000 preflop. Bet more on the flop.
I gladly shove on the flop when I face a raise. Though how'd you raise the flop when everybody checked to you? Weird hand converter.
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#4
07-31-2007, 10:06 PM
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Re: Playing AK near the Bubble deepstacked
thnx for the answer, i was really scared i had to always push and pray in this spot..
hand converter is find+replace [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] did not find any for everest hh btw villain had AT spades, turn ten, river spade, thats pokah right? short additional question, if i get one caller and miss the flop, do i often c-bet given stacks and bubble ahead?
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#6
08-01-2007, 01:43 AM
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Re: Playing AK near the Bubble deepstacked
you're giving the limpers pretty good odds to call you PF. there is 3600 (+ antes?) in the pot before you come in, and you only raise another 2200? by the time you've called, there is 4400 in the pot, so i'd make it at least that much more to call. 5800?
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#7
08-01-2007, 01:50 AM
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Re: Playing AK near the Bubble deepstacked
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OP, You are not thinking like a poker player. You are not trying to figure out what your opponents have and you are not trying to figure out what your pot odds are vs. the odds that your hand is best. From your post it seems that you are not really thinking at all. You should probably work on that. What is the reason that you are questioning getting your money in here? What alternative lines do you think might have been optimal if this one was not? What hands do you think your opponents might have that would pay you off? That would beat you?... Just asking if your play was good and then commenting that you got bad beat will never help your game. --------------------------------------- [ QUOTE ] you're giving the limpers pretty good odds to call [/ QUOTE ] I have read this criticism a lot but I don't really understand it. Why don't we want the limpers calling our raise? What hands limp and then call a raise to 5800? What hands limp and call a raise to 3000? Anyone feel free to answer this question...
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#8
08-01-2007, 01:56 AM
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Re: Playing AK near the Bubble deepstacked
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[ QUOTE ] you're giving the limpers pretty good odds to call [/ QUOTE ] I have read this criticism a lot but I don't really understand it. Why don't we want the limpers calling our raise? What hands limp and then call a raise to 5800? What hands limp and call a raise to 3000? Anyone feel free to answer this question... [/ QUOTE ] it seems like any hand that would limp and call a raise to 3000. maybe things like connectors, pocket pairs, two face cards. who limps with these blinds anyways? certainly AsTs is one of the better things (for us) that he could be limp/calling with. (although i've never played it this way) add: if he limp/calls 5800, he's probably got a very good hand (was this what you're trying to say?)
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