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Old 07-30-2007, 10:59 PM
threeducks threeducks is offline
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Default QQ UTG - turn question.

I have Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG and I raise in this average 6/12 live game. Only the SB defends.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 4 sb = $30-$5=$25/$6)

SB checks and I bet, SB calls.

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 bb)

He checks and I check behind.

Question? Should I have bet?

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 bb)

SB bets?

Call? I am getting 1-3 on my call so I need to be right 33% of the time to break even.

Is it correct strategy to call the river when I checked the Turn? The problem is that he very well might have called on a flush draw if he does not have an Ace.

Thanks
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

i would bet the turn and check the river. if he bets the river i fold. if he CR's the turn i fold as well.
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

After the hand was over that was my thought but by then it was too late. This is because I did not plan my actions based upon what cards might fall on turn and river. Maybe next time. Thanks for confirming my thoughts.

I was representating Ace Queen/Jack by checking the flop.
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

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i would bet the turn and check the river. if he bets the river i fold. if he CR's the turn i fold as well.

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Thanks again. As played fold the river, right?
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.


Unless the SB is a rock, I call the river bet. You've invited him to throw a bluff at you by checking through the turn.

If I bet the turn and was just called, I would probably just check through on the river.

I would usually bet the turn and fold to a turn check-raise against a typical player.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

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i would bet the turn and check the river. if he bets the river i fold. if he CR's the turn i fold as well.

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Thanks again. As played fold the river, right?

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given that you showed weakness (incorrectly) on the turn, you have no choice but to call the river against most players.
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Old 07-31-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

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i would bet the turn and check the river. if he bets the river i fold. if he CR's the turn i fold as well.

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Thanks again. As played fold the river, right?

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That is what you get when you make a mistake like I did - checking the turn was bad.

given that you showed weakness (incorrectly) on the turn, you have no choice but to call the river against most players.


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Old 07-31-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

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The problem is that he very well might have called on a flush draw if he does not have an Ace.


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that's why you bet the turn, to protect your hand when your opponent is drawing. I would bet the turn & check through river. if C/R on turn, unless opponent is super aggressive & would C/R semibluff a draw, you have an easy fold. as played, though, you need to call his river bet, you invited it by checking the turn.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

I bet the turn. As played I fold the river.
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Old 07-31-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: QQ UTG - turn question.

if you check the turn it's to induce a bluff. that said, i'm never trying to induce a bluff in such an ittybitty pot. should be able to bet/fold the turn with impunity.
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