200nl, another 200xbb AK hand

[ycjason]

villian is about 21/17/2 over 900 hands
he 3 bets light, and have 3 bet me a lot of times on this table as he had position on me most of the time, I have generally folded to his 3 bet because we are so deep and I didn't want to play a large pot OOP

please comment on all street, I normally 4 bet with AK here and call a push, but feeling uncomfortable doing that being this deep so I just called. Oh, my own image on the table is pretty loose aggressive, villain has played enough with me to know that I raise/3 bet/4 bet pretty light, but he would also know I call push pretty light as well, so that should balance out a little as to whether he would want to push me allin.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $481.75
BB: $31.80
UTG: $212.75
Hero (CO): $477.65
BTN: $171.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $26.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $18.00

Flop: ($54) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $38.00</font>, Hero calls $38.00

Turn: ($130) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks
Hero: ? clearly I should bet here, this is the whole purpose of floating on flop, how much should I bet here, and if called, what's my river line?

[ycjason]

bump.. those deep stack hands really seem to give me trouble sometimes, I often felt like I am playing too scared in those.

[Nielsio]

Betting the turn and shoving the river might be pretty sexy.

But is it a consistent line given we didn't raise the flop?

Given the float I'm also not sure if this is a good turn-card.

You can probably rep spades at least..

[strde635]

u have him dominated. he is 19:1 to improve. checking behind to call his bluff on river is right move.

[reup]

this hand's gettin dirty pretty quick i usually just repop to 77 if he's three betting light plus your in a semi steal position though i dont blame you for calling since a shove would be pretty gross to deal with but probably foldable this deep.

i don't peel in these spots and don't feel like i'm giving much up but it looks like you like to fhk with people so have at bet 100 fold if he stack a donks you and shove the river if he checks agian unless you think he thinks you're four betting AA/KK maybe QQ pf like always. do you get tricky pf at all?

[strde635]

i guess no one likes the idea of checking behind and calling the river.

[ycjason]

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this hand's gettin dirty pretty quick i usually just repop to 77 if he's three betting light plus your in a semi steal position though i dont blame you for calling since a shove would be pretty gross to deal with but probably foldable this deep.

i don't peel in these spots and don't feel like i'm giving much up but it looks like you like to fhk with people so have at bet 100 fold if he stack a donks you and shove the river if he checks agian unless you think he thinks you're four betting AA/KK maybe QQ pf like always. do you get tricky pf at all?

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he has played enough with me to see me 4 bet with some weired hands, so probably put my 4 bet range to Qs+, AQ+, SC, any PP, and some random Axs, obviously more likely the first 2 catagory. and I can call 3 bet here pretty much with ATC (including As/Ks) since we are so deep and I have position on him.

[ycjason]

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u have him dominated. he is 19:1 to improve. checking behind to call his bluff on river is right move.

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in general, I would like to control the betting and not the other way around, I might check turn and call river if I had Qs or something that has real showdown value, but Ace I need to bet this to push him out most of his one pair hand range