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Old 07-30-2007, 08:27 PM
bosoxx05 bosoxx05 is offline
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Default 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

Just sat down about 20 hands ago so no meaningful stats. Villian has played straight forward so far. Good spot to C-bet or just check fold?

Just starting to get back into cash after a long run of tournaments.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $201.75
BB: $216.70
UTG: $218.95
CO: $208.80
BTN: $309.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BB calls $22.00, BTN folds

Flop: ($55) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ??
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:30 PM
Suwalski Suwalski is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

I usually tend to bet 35$ in these spots.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:32 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

Check. This hand is likely to hit his range, and unlikely to hit your "percieved range". Some villains will raise you with ATC for this reason on these boards.

Also food for thought. If you have been quiet at the table, you could cbet any flop here and just do your best to rep JJ+. The less active you have been the more success you should have with this line.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:35 PM
SirFelixCat SirFelixCat is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

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Check. This hand is likely to hit his range, and unlikely to hit your "percieved range". Some villains will raise you with ATC for this reason on these boards.

Also food for thought. If you have been quiet at the table, you could cbet any flop here and just do your best to rep JJ+. The less active you have been the more success you should have with this line.

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh?

How do we NOT fire at this flop? Villain HAS to put us on JJ+ here, given that OP is a quiet unknown thus far. If he doesn't fire here, what's the purpose of the 3bet? Granted we hope to take it down here pre, but if called, don't we absolutely have to fire? Otherwise, OP hands the pot away.

I really think c/f is a horribly weak line to take....
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

On hands like this, I think your table image is very important. If you had been cbetting a lot of hands, I would vote for a check here. Because you just sat down I like cbetting $35-40.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

you guys do realize bb cold called and button is out right?

c/f.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:39 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

Against unknown, c/f. Sometimes delayed cb on the turn.

Also, I'm beginning to not like helping players out who play at my site at my levels [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

So many regulars, esp during early week..
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:39 PM
SirFelixCat SirFelixCat is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

Nope, Bukem, completely misread the hand.

In that case, that's horrifying and well, either b/f or c/f are valid....
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:40 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

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you guys do realize bb cold called and button is out right?

c/f.

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I suck at reading.

Yea this is an easy c/f now.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL, AJ 3-bet gets flat called by BB

Thanks guys, I c/f the flop.
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