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Old 07-30-2007, 05:25 PM
KexChoklad123 KexChoklad123 is offline
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Default Black Jack rules and house edge?

With this set of rules, how big is the casinos edge if a player plays according to basic strategy?

6 decks
Shuffling machine/sometimes a shoe
Beting spread, 40-60 units depedning on stakes

BJ pays 3to2
Insurance pays 2to1
Dealer stands on soft 17
Player can double any two cards
Unlimited re-spliting, including aces
Double down after splitting allowed
Early surrender option available

With optimum strategy, what are the house edge?


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Old 07-30-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: Black Jack rules and house edge?

wizardofodds.com

With early surrender, the question is, how big of an edge does the player have?
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Black Jack rules and house edge?

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wizardofodds.com

With early surrender, the question is, how big of an edge does the player have?

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I thought this as well. Checked out the site but the calculator does'nt have all the rules/options. Found another one which had the game at 2,7% edge for the player, this sounds very high?
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Black Jack rules and house edge?

You have a spread of 1-60?
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Black Jack rules and house edge?


Where have you found early surrender?
This game almost certainly has a substantial advantage for the player.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Black Jack rules and house edge?

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You have a spread of 1-60?

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On the low limit tables, yes.

On the high limit tables there is a 1-40 spread. Though I probably should mention that "high limit" here is not really high limit. I would estimate a maximum bet here as something like $700
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:44 PM
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Where have you found early surrender?
This game almost certainly has a substantial advantage for the player.

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Where I work [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] This is not in the US and A
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Black Jack rules and house edge?

Kex,

Why simulate? You'll be filthy rich soon enough anyway. Penetration is very very important. But with such a huge ass spread... You could likely beat a 40% penetration (I'm noob and just throwing this out of my ass).

I mean, rules are amazing. Spread is insane. Are you sure they deal a full deck?
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:31 PM
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Kex,

Why simulate? You'll be filthy rich soon enough anyway. Penetration is very very important. But with such a huge ass spread... You could likely beat a 40% penetration (I'm noob and just throwing this out of my ass).


I mean, rules are amazing. Spread is insane. Are you sure they deal a full deck?

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Thremp


Yes I'm sure. I kinda figured the rules were awesome as soon as I saw them. So, is this game beatable without a shoe? The game is mainly run with a shuffle master
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Old 07-31-2007, 04:01 PM
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CSM or ASM....?

Never with CSM. Of course with ASM.
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