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Old 07-30-2007, 03:16 PM
ig06 ig06 is offline
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Default Re: big draws w/o fold equity

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option 1: all-in on the flop. according to twodimes.net i have .526 equity on the flop vs red aces. that's $1052 equity or +$52.

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I prefer to count your equity from the flop. In other words the money that went in pre-flop is the pot's. So the EV of folding the flop = 0. Thats why my my answer is different to yours (apart from you rounding the EV which doesn't really matter :-)). So, agreed in this example but don't you think pushing is still better in almost any real scenario?
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: big draws w/o fold equity

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but don't you think pushing is still better in almost any real scenario?

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yes
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: big draws w/o fold equity

Ok,btw if some of my comments above sound like teaching a granny to suck eggs (I haven't play higher than 400NL and my game has more leaks than I care to mention) its unintended! I was genuinely curious if you ever a good enough read to come close to this scenario.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: big draws w/o fold equity

well in the example i gave my read would have to be really good, even a little bit of fold equity (from AK or maybe QQ sometimes) would make a push win. however, some other factors could swing it closer to a call. if we were deeper, if he bet less on the flop, stuff like that. all of that being said, if the decision is really close it doesn't matter which way i go and would choose whatever fits best with my style/metagame/etc. this was meant mainly as math exercise for myself and thought it might be somewhat interesting for others.
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