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Old 07-29-2007, 01:10 AM
papabigballer papabigballer is offline
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Default QQ facing large river bet

Villians stats are 19/17 over a large sample. No prior history at this table. Is this turn and river call a leak this deep?

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $123.20
Hero (BB): $210.45
UTG: $93.25
BTN: $139.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.00</font>, BTN calls $7.50

Flop: ($22.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BTN calls $14.00

Turn: ($50.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $32.50</font>, Hero calls $32.50

River: ($115.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $76.50</font>, Hero calls $76.50

Pot Size: $268.50 ($2 Rake)
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:12 AM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet

it really looks like you are beat... you need a read to call. players are capable of bluffing here, but you have no idea if he is bluffing
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet

yea it really looks like your beat... what do you beat here AJ?
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:16 AM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet


I would check the flop sometimes, but i'd also check it w AA, and a K sometimes

It's def. tempting to call, since this would be an awesome spot for him to double barrel due to the double paired board

I prob call if he's aggro and fold if he's passive. What's he AF?
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:17 AM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet

Tough spot but I would lay down the river. When you check turn you're telling villain you have no K. I'd rather bet $35 on the turn, and if he calls/raises give up on the hand.
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:24 AM
papabigballer papabigballer is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet

Ok, first HH was from Villians view. This is how the hand actually played out. I figured there was no way he could call with anything but a K, but I guess I thought wrong. Hows my line?

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $123.20
BB: $210.45
UTG: $93.25
Hero (BTN): $139.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $11.00</font>, Hero calls $7.50

Flop: ($22.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $14.00</font>, Hero calls $14.00

Turn: ($50.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32.50</font>, BB calls $32.50

River: ($115.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $76.50</font>, BB calls $76.50

Pot Size: $268.50 ($2 Rake)
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet


from your perspective, i'm not sure why you're expecting him to fold if he didn't fold turn

it's not like you have a 4 (unless you're Orange) so if he decided to call the turn he'll call the river

i don't like pf unless there's history, is there?
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet

the fold button is normally on the left...

you don't have to win every pot
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing large river bet

[ QUOTE ]
the fold button is normally on the left...

you don't have to win every pot

[/ QUOTE ]



lol - whose fold button are you talking about? the hero in the op (that's the villain) or the hero in the second post (that's the op)
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