[censored] spot with 88

[shaundeeb]

final table of 10 1r 1a no reads on these guys prob suck, I feel like I had to c-bet this flop but I dunno maybe it was wrong.

okerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t385453)
UTG (t78746)
Hero (t151447)
MP1 (t596556)
MP2 (t52904)
MP3 (t214380)
CO (t291994)
Button (t207432)
SB (t181588)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t20000</font>, MP1 calls t20000, MP2 calls t20000, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t66400) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t48000</font>, MP1 calls t48000, MP2 calls t32104 (All-In).

Turn: (t194504) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t40000</font>

[APipeDream]

I think against an unknown player betting half your stack here is either DYING for a call with an overpair or playing 2 overcards. I may shove. obv calling is stupid, but a fold is okay...sooo much in the pot though.

[shaundeeb]

yah I had 80k behind on the turn.

[MJBuddy]

I Cbet something like 95% of the time...I don't see why this flop is bad for it, except KT/QT/JT are a popular calling hand.

The 5% of the time I'm not CBetting is multiway pots/shallow stacked, pretty much.

[DerrtySlime]

raise more pf to discourage calls while oop. i think c betting this flop is good although i would size it a little smaller, maybe 40or 41k.

[JARID]

Looks standard. I hate getting both in on the flop. I guess MP1 could have 44 or something getting to the turn but more often it is a T and I think you need to fold on the turn.

You think otherwise?

[SuperUberBob]

This is a read-dependent decision more so than anything else.

This looks to me like villain is floating the flop and bluffing the turn, thinking you might be c-betting with two overcards. If he's capable of floating, I can jam here. Against a non-thinking ABC type player, I fold.

It's really, really tough to fold with so many chips in the pot. But if I'm up against that type of player, I bite the bullet and let it go.

[JARID]

IMO on the turn villians w/ worse hands are just checking it down here with the other guy all in.

[shaundeeb]

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This is a read-dependent decision more so than anything else.

This looks to me like villain is floating the flop and bluffing the turn, thinking you might be c-betting with two overcards. If he's capable of floating, I can jam here. Against a non-thinking ABC type player, I fold.

It's really, really tough to fold with so many chips in the pot. But if I'm up against that type of player, I bite the bullet and let it go.

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you notice MP overcalled allin and had less then the bet I was making. but not by that much villian is playing vs me for a 14kish sidepot.

[Lord_Strife]

I really like the hand up until the turn... in a three way pot I really have to think your hand is no good anymore, which sucks but I think you have to shutdown after the action on the flop. What hand do you put the guy you're competing in the sidepot with ? Another pocket pair? 44-99 is infinitely more likely than JJ+, but I also think that T[x] is way more likely than any of his other ranges.... MAYBE AJ+? He's betting after you check, he knows he can't take it down with a bluff because he's competing for an allin pot... granted they're probably retarded but even retards can be ahead of you in this pot sometimes