A standard AK hand

[recallme]

Game #5208984484: Hold'em NL ($5/$10) - 2007/07/28 - 02:00:54 (UK)
Table "SilvisIllinois" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Alecandra ($1347.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Kost11 ($680.50 in chips)
Seat 3: unicoern ($2578.42 in chips)
Seat 5: Mr.C ($1013.75 in chips)
Seat 6: MGS84 ($1031 in chips)
Mr.C: posts small blind $5
MGS84: posts big blind $10
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to unicoern [Ah Kh]
Alecandra: raises to $40
Kost11: folds
unicoern: raises to $140
Mr.C: folds
MGS84: folds
Alecandra: calls $100
----- FLOP ----- [8c Jd As]
Alecandra: checks
unicoern: bets $200
Alecandra: calls $200
----- TURN ----- [8c Jd As][8s]
Alecandra: checks
unicoern: bets $350
Alecandra: raises to $780

Villain is 30/14 and more on the passive site postflop.

Call or shove? Anyone considering folding in a 3bet pot?

[Hattifnatt]

Post less hands and try to find more interesting ones instead with more accurate reads and history.

As for the hand I often check the turn.

[recallme]

Why should we check turn?
He seldom has a better hand here and Villain is passive,sohe could have a weaker A quite often.

[FGators]

I'm not against checking the flop. If I'm betting the flop I'm checking the turn because I don't think we can get 3 streets of value here and be good that often against a guy thats passive postflop.

Oh and if Im checking either turn or flop I'm like usually calling any reasonable river bet.

[poker12]

wow i hate the whole hand

[destroBU]

I like checking turn too, then calling his river bet, or betting if checked to. This can often induce bets from hands that would give up to a 2nd barrel, and you lose the minimum when youre behind. You say he's passive, but do you really think he's just going to call down 3 barrels an Ace or worse?

[recallme]

Ok, i get the point of checking turn and think it`s best.
I really have to admit that.
What are we doing now?

[destroBU]

Check turn, if he makes a reasonable bet call. If he checks, I would bet. If he c/r's river, it sucks, depending on the river, but youre almost definitely beat.

[jj12]

jesus christ, can you be more results oriented? if villain is a donk we can stack him on this board and we need to bet the turn. as played, i don't like this min-raise but I cannot find a fold on the turn and push it.

[recallme]

[ QUOTE ]
Why should we check turn?
He seldom has a better hand here and Villain is passive,sohe could have a weaker A quite often.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am now very glad having posted it, because i now can fix what was perhaps a leak.

I am not sure if i misplayed turn here always, but still it`s worth reading it.