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Old 07-28-2007, 02:21 PM
gedanken gedanken is offline
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Default Re: Help me play KK preflop

This is messy bet sizes, but basically fine and normal. Lots of low stakes players love minbets for reasons that vary with the player a lot, and the situation a little. I like to keep notes on this, since for most players it means they have a weak hand and they're hoping you'll fold, but for some it means they have a monster they want you to bet for them.

I can't imagine the difference between .08 and .09, what? You can make it .10 because of the limper, or not, it's not that big a deal.

You're second raise is smallish, as mentioned, but I actually don't hate it. If you think villian could 3-bet from the BB as a bluff, almost any 4-bet will do the job. Once he reraises (even this silly .30), I think you can safely shove, because he's said he has a hand he'll play. $2.4 is a normal 3x raise, and good to get us pot committed.

Contrary to appearances, most LAGs are not looking for expensive confrontations with nothing. They're looking to take cheap shots at getting a big hand, then letting their image do the heavy lifting to get a call. He's got a hand here.

I'm glad you're not asking if you can fold your kings! Now that he's got the table playing back at him, JJ+ is enough for him to be going all in pre, probably worse.
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Old 07-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Help me play KK preflop

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I would have folded it...but thats me

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That would be horrible. "Villain ... has been bullying the table recently with raises and reraises." Do not give a maniac the same credit you would give a tight, passive, unimaginative player who keeps reraising. There are very few times when you can correctly fold KK preflop (though there are many times to stop raising), and this is not one of them.
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:42 PM
Arjonius Arjonius is offline
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Default Re: Help me play KK preflop

First off, there's probably no difference between opening for .08 and .09. It only matters when the difference in your bet size will cause one or more opponents to act differently. In this case, the penny difference seems unlikely to do so. Also, at micro-stakes, it's not uncommon to see people call 3x or 4x with very mediocre hands; they don't mind because the amount of money is puny. So at any given table, one thing you should do early is figure out what the opening bet size is that will make a difference.

Also, don't count on micro-stakes players having an image of you or anyone else until they've shown that they do. Most people aware enough to track opponents' play patterns are good enough to win at higher levels, so they're not playing .01/.02.
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Help me play KK preflop

on your 2nd raise i would of made it 70 to 80c to go,if he raised after that just push preflop, people like this almost never fold in the penny ring.
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