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Old 07-27-2007, 07:07 PM
robinmbuk robinmbuk is offline
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

Yeah, I think your hand is fairly well defined pf, so it looks like QQ here most often. I think he wants you to call the flop minraise and pot commit yourself by doing so. Good fold.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

I don't believe with TT he would act so strong preflop when his VPIP is 23. So he has AK KK QQ or MAYBE JJ so You are behind 2/3 or 3/4 of the times at this flop. Do the math now...
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

Like others are saying, the bet on the flop is pointless if you are going to fold to a raise.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

What's wrong with shoving in preflop.. after all.. only AK or AQ would do that right.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

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What's wrong with shoving in preflop.. after all.. only AK or AQ would do that right.

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not with these stacks
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

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Do the math now..

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

12,870 games 0.016 secs 804,375 games/sec

Board: 3d Qd Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.854% 45.18% 03.67% 5815 472.50 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 51.146% 47.47% 03.67% 6110 472.50 { JJ+ }
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

Did you see the hand(s) that he built his stack with? What happened?
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

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What's wrong with shoving in preflop.. after all.. only AK or AQ would do that right.

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not with these stacks

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What, it's 1 buy in, it's absolute.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: 50NL deep w/ AA c/r on flop

i think i 4bet bigger. Im not a huge fan of checking the flop but at this point bet/call and live with it if he suckd out
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