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#21
07-26-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: July 23rd meeting
My opinion is that we will not see big buyin games for a while. I think that if the Seminoles are allowed to offer Class 3 table games like blackjck and roulette, then I don't think the Seminoles will offer poker anymore. Class 3 games are much more profitable for the Seminoles then poker and it will force poker players to play at the pari mutuels which is good for the state.
Over time we may see the limits raised again or the hours changed but I don't think it will be done for at least three to five years. It took six years for the state to get rid of $10 max pot and another four years to raise the limits again. I wouldn't bet on another raise so quickly. 
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#22
07-26-2007, 11:47 AM
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Re: July 23rd meeting
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My opinion is that we will not see big buyin games for a while. I think that if the Seminoles are allowed to offer Class 3 table games like blackjck and roulette, then I don't think the Seminoles will offer poker anymore. Class 3 games are much more profitable for the Seminoles then poker and it will force poker players to play at the pari mutuels which is good for the state. Over time we may see the limits raised again or the hours changed but I don't think it will be done for at least three to five years. It took six years for the state to get rid of $10 max pot and another four years to raise the limits again. I wouldn't bet on another raise so quickly. [/ QUOTE ] Great points here. I don't know if the Seminoles will eliminate poker completely if they get Class III gaming, but I certainly don't think they will care about pushing high-stakes poker. I guess they would probably keep at least some poker tables to get that crowd into the casino, but poker they certainly wouldn't consider it a key revenue source. And I can't see the state allowing higher stakes for awhile. At a certain point, you just can't get any more rake from the tables, and I think we've probably reached that point. So there would be no motivation to raise the limits.
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#23
07-26-2007, 11:52 AM
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Re: July 23rd meeting
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[ QUOTE ] Here is a link to the workshopped jackpot rules. http://www.myflorida.com/dbpr/pmw/wo...2007-07-19.pdf [/ QUOTE ] OK....(just as stupid) This one hurts the cardrooms and the players. First, the cardrooms have to go out and buy new SPECIALLY COLORED jackpot chips. OK, not really so bad...but what about...FILL ON 13 NEED MORE JACKPOT CHIPS...ok stop the game AGAIN...not to mention the additional mechanical strokes the dealers must now make almost each and every hand to change out the one dollar chip for a jackpot chip. OH, and what about...new dealer coming in...FLOOR, THIS WELL IS NOT RIGHT THERE IS A JACKPOT CHIP MISSING...STOP THE GAME AGAIN....GOOD GOD NOT ANOTHER MISSING JACKPOT CHIP!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Thats why the dealers should buy their own bank and carry it from table to table.
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#24
07-26-2007, 12:56 PM
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Re: July 23rd meeting
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Here is a link to the workshopped jackpot rules. http://www.myflorida.com/dbpr/pmw/wo...2007-07-19.pdf [/ QUOTE ] OK....(just as stupid) This one hurts the cardrooms and the players. First, the cardrooms have to go out and buy new SPECIALLY COLORED jackpot chips. OK, not really so bad...but what about...FILL ON 13 NEED MORE JACKPOT CHIPS...ok stop the game AGAIN...not to mention the additional mechanical strokes the dealers must now make almost each and every hand to change out the one dollar chip for a jackpot chip. OH, and what about...new dealer coming in...FLOOR, THIS WELL IS NOT RIGHT THERE IS A JACKPOT CHIP MISSING...STOP THE GAME AGAIN....GOOD GOD NOT ANOTHER MISSING JACKPOT CHIP!!!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] Thats why the dealers should buy their own bank and carry it from table to table. [/ QUOTE ] They do that at Gulfstream. I think it might be the only room in South Florida where that's true. I think you've touched on one thing that has been very irritating in post-7/1 Florida poker: There are constant dealer delays, even at the limit tables. They have to stop to sell chips. They take entirely too long to count the bank at the beginning of their shift at a table. They have to get a bank fill. They have to sell more chips and get another bank fill and then count the bank yet again. They have to make change but are short of white chips so they have to get another bank fill. It's ridiculous. A simple solution: Don't sell chips to a player who has just sat down. Having a player rebuy is one thing. But every time a new player sits at a table, it delays the game while the dealer has to stop and count out chips, which leaves him short of chips again. Make it a policy that a player has to purchase chips at the cashier window before sitting at a table. That would eliminate about 75% of the delays.
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#27
07-27-2007, 04:54 AM
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Re: WTF Florida? No rebuys in NL???
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[ QUOTE ] How are you supposed to play any type of NL game with only 100? Do they offer less than 1/2 NL? [/ QUOTE ] No. But they have 2/5 if you prefer. [/ QUOTE ] 100$ 2/5 awsome! I can hear it now.."well i have a monster but if I call my last 60 and lose then im done so...I FOLD"
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#29
07-27-2007, 09:21 PM
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Re: WTF Florida? No rebuys in NL???
yup
generally withthe 5/10 its a a bunch of guys who bring 500-1000$ and just go all in trying to double up if they dont doubleup they rebuy right away. if they do double up they try to work theyre way to 500-1000$ for the day sit down and take the people that come in with 100,lol
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#30
07-29-2007, 06:01 PM
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Re: WTF Florida? No rebuys in NL???
whine whine whine, at least you guys have poker. In Texas, birthplace of Texas Hold'em, I have to drive a minimum of 4 hours to find legal poker. Sorry, I'm still bitter about OUR poker legislation getting stalled and have nothing better to do while we wait 2 more years for the legis to meet again. You can ignore this threadjack... or flame it... doesn't matter to me.
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