stacking off superlight vs carrotsnake

[orange]

fold flop...

[cs3]

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actually i hate this turn c/r b/c at this point it's too late to try to move him off of anything. this c/r has no fe; he's getting ridiculous odds.

also, fold pf

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the ch/r is not to move him off any hand. its for value... CS is comitted now.

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i think it's highly debatable whether we are betting for value here. even though hero made a small flop raise, i think you've got to give csnake at least some credit for a made hand/big draws when he cold 3bets this hand on the flop.

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ya, i know hes likely to have a mosnter hand. but IF we ch/r this turn its becasue we put CS on a bluff and he'll have to call with just about anything. im not saying i would ever take this line.

we cant ever ch/r turn as a bluff here with with zero fold equity vs someone as aggro as CS.... especially with that strong of a hand. that would be pretty terrible

[carrotsnake]

he's got top pairs!

[Bukem_]

whole hand is a ridic spew based on raising some donks minbet that he might not have even seen.

you aren't estimating any ranges for either of you, talking about board texture or fact that you raised utg. Stating cs could be on a draw or on air isn't enough.

[bilbo-san]

LOL @ raising this [censored] preflop when Carrot has the button.

Just lol.

[Bukem_]

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LOL @ raising this [censored] preflop when Carrot has the button.

Just lol.

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its lol even with a pretty big donk on the button.

[higher_energy]

this is pretty bad....what do you think he is raising you on the flop with?
fold flop

[tarheeljks]

we raised utg, and then we were 3bet on the flop. considering how much strength he has shown, knowing that we are likely to have at least a decent hand our hand is too weak to be worrying about extracting value. (actually, i think it's weak independent of all of that, but you get my point)

[bilbo-san]

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LOL @ raising this [censored] preflop when Carrot has the button.

Just lol.

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its lol even with a pretty big donk on the button.

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It's way less lol if you are genuinely dominating the table.

No offense, SN, but I would much rather stake CS than you. I'd probably only be playing premiums from UTG at this table. CS is very unlikely to notice this because a) it's only UTG (when he has the button), and b) he's 8-tabling.

[SilentNoise]

wow.

i cant believe i raised this utg. i dont normally fwiw. i was tilting that session coz of some realllly bad beats i took on other tables.