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Old 07-27-2007, 03:02 PM
LuckySal LuckySal is offline
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Default Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

Ok stats of this fish are: 82/45/6 ----- aggro/maniac/station

This guy has been giving me no credits what so ever
And has successfully pushing me of allot of mediocre hands

I seldom call with AJs a 3-bet well being Oop, but this time I felt I was way ahead of his range. He was doing his 3-bet like every other orbit, maybe even more.

Note: I’ve already stacked this guy once this day.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($97.50)
BB ($65.88)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($172.82)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP ($119.36)</font>
CO ($184.99)
Button ($141.94)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($15.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $50</font>, Hero calls $21.50.

Turn: ($115.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP calls $119.36 (All-In), Hero ???. ($62.36 left)


I really think I’ve have NO fold equity on the flop after he minraised me

SO should we just check/fold the turn. Or do we call

Please elaborate
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:06 PM
Hince Hince is offline
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

Fist-pump call!

The flop raise sucks... this guys software does not have a fold button. Just call the flop.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

uh...ya
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:09 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

Is this a joke? Push the flop.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

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This 82/45/6

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This

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>....

[/ QUOTE ]

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4BET!
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:37 PM
hellmuth88 hellmuth88 is offline
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

against this villian (and only for 100bb) i happily push this on the flop with two overs and the nutflushdraw.......... even without foldequity your hand plays very well against his range..... against solid players i would slow down a bit on a paired board, since i could be drawing dead....
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:40 PM
Keitan Keitan is offline
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

No way fold the turn. I'd def 4bet to ~30 preflop against this guy intending to to go allin on any flop if called.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

Just push flop. As played, call turn.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:41 PM
BagOfCoins BagOfCoins is offline
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

I agree with Jamougha and cbboy: reraise allin on the flop. Either you believe he has a deuce or you don't. If he does have a deuce, then you're in trouble, but if he doesn't, then you are ahead of pretty much everything short of JJ+.

Two overcards + nut flush draw &gt; top pair on the flop.

On the flop, even if he's holding AK, you still have 9 flush outs plus 3 jacks, which would make you a small dog. If you're ahead, then going allin is a coup, and if you're behind, then it's at worst a small mistake.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Another awkward spot vs maniac-fish

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Two overcards + nut flush draw &gt; top pair on the flop.

On the flop, even if he's holding AK, you still have 9 flush outs plus 3 jacks, which would make you a small favorite. If you're ahead, then going allin is a coup, and if you're behind, then it's at worst a small mistake.

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fyp

pokenum -h as js - ac kd -- 9s 2s 2h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 9s 2s 2h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Js 452 45.66 427 43.13 111 11.21 0.513
Ac Kd 427 43.13 452 45.66 111 11.21 0.487
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