Fun w/ 88

[The Dude]

I don't think this is that interesting, in that I'm pretty sure I played it right, but it's the closest thing to an interesting hand I played (although Goofball botched a hand vs Mason Malmuth, that was fun).

Bellagio 30-60, 9 handed. CO is a loose, bad, frustrated and stuck tourist. I'm pretty sure he's sick and tired of me and goofball raising and 3betting each other, so he may or may not be overplaying, I don't know for sure.

Preflop:
The Dude raises UTG w/ 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Folded to CO who 3bets. The blinds fold, The Dude calls.

Flop: (7.67 SBs) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 Players)</font>
The Dude checks, CO bets, The Dude raises, CO 3bets, The Dude 4bets. CO calls.

Turn: (7.83 BBs) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
The Dude bets, CO raises, The Dude 3bets, CO calls.

River: (13.83 BBs) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
The Dude...?

[Fianchetto]

you have to bet this river. checkraising will not work often enough.

[cmcxchris]

Bet.

[ackid]

Bet, then 3-bet if he raises.

[threeonefour]

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Bet, then 3-bet if he raises.

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jopke? 3bet is def a spew. i like bet call. since its quite a bit more likely the guy has QQ KK AA (and will pay off) than AJ you should bet. if he raises though, its way more likely he has a AJ than QQ KK AA and you should call.

[rafiki]

bet/call

[ackid]

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Bet, then 3-bet if he raises.

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jopke? 3bet is def a spew. i like bet call. since its quite a bit more likely the guy has QQ KK AA (and will pay off) than AJ you should bet. if he raises though, its way more likely he has a AJ than QQ KK AA and you should call.

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Sorry, didnt realize board was double paired. Just call

[Justin A]

Bet for reasons others have stated. If he raises calling would be akin to taking $60 and depositing it directly into a Nigerian scammer's bank account.

[threeonefour]

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Bet for reasons others have stated. If he raises calling would be akin to taking $60 and depositing it directly into a Nigerian scammer's bank account.

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true but you would still call right, in practice, at least some of the time? or do some players actually have that kind of discipline?

[rafiki]

I have to pay him off on the river. Because his line on every street would be no less then supremely wicked if all he's got is a J, or 33, or JJ. I need to seeeee. then I get drunk at drais and punish myself for wasting 60$.

can't he know that we can't have a J here based on our line, and raise the river sometimes ? I know some of you in here are capable of filth like that.