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Old 07-27-2007, 07:18 AM
ToomuchCoffee ToomuchCoffee is offline
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Default AA- and I´m helpless

First post,great forum! I played MS limit and start NL now and I´m lost OOP! No reads on MP2.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $103.45
BB: $63.40
Hero (UTG): $54.30
UTG+1: $49.25
MP1: $50.00
MP2: $72.90
MP3: $129.45
CO: $31.15
BTN: $43.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2.00, 5 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, MP2 calls $4.00

Turn: ($12.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, MP2 calls $8.00

River: ($28.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

Pot Size: $28.75

When I checked the river, I already thought: What now if he bets more than half pot?
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

When you check the river you induce a bluff from him. As played you should call any reasonable bet villain does on the river.

If it was me I would bet the river for value myself, inducing a bluff here is not so good because villain doesn't have much to represent.

Also, I think if villain has a hand that beats you (2pair+), he would have made it by the turn and raised you. The river 3 couldn't have improved his hand so coupled with the above, I don't think the river check is good at all.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:44 AM
ToomuchCoffee ToomuchCoffee is offline
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

I thought, he could not be on a straightdraw, calling the flopbet. So his holdings should be pp or AJ -9J. But after he called the turnbet i thought im toast. There is no need for him to raise the turn with a made hand, i think.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

It doesn't mean your toast when he calls the turn, maybe if he raised it. River is an easy value bet, around $15ish.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

Bet the river. You can think about folding if he shoves, but that seems very unlikely.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

Play it the same until the river, I bet ~$15 if he's passive, if he's aggressive I don't mind a c/c.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

He will call a riverbet with Jx (which he will have the majority of the time), fold with T9 and raise with better hands. So I would like a bet in this situation (~1/2 pot).
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:30 AM
Mingdu Mingdu is offline
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

How can you have no reads? ... you've been at the table together for at least one orbit
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

straight draw would be 9/10, aj would play the same way, any set would reraise turn most likely as you have shown strength and don't look to go anywhere, you are way ahead of villans range, please bet 1/2 that pot on the river for valuetown-- i don't see why you think your behind, most, if not all players, will not call a raise from an UTG raiser with j 9 from MP with other players left to act
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: AA- and I´m helpless

but btw, post in full ring, i'm a 6max guy so that could be spewey advice. . .
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