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Old 07-26-2007, 03:24 PM
AAKKallin AAKKallin is offline
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Default MTT Final table $11... Am I da donkish type?

2nd hand of final table against final table monsterstack who has official pokerrankings record of 2 ITM in 200 tourneys....

***** Hand History for Game 6184359912 *****
NL Texas Holdem Trny:34671802 Level:12 Blinds-Antes(1 500/3 000 -75) - Thursday, July 26, 14:16:31 ET 2007
Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: dannyx444 ( 104,058 )
Seat 2: aakkallin ( 70,799 )
Seat 3: parachatt111 ( 319,971 )
Seat 4: Gerwien1987 ( 19,591 )
Seat 5: Casperdino ( 61,814 )
Seat 6: DrawInDeath ( 53,025 )
Seat 7: alyas ( 173,135 )
Seat 8: dancer1954 ( 31,298 )
Seat 9: S1berian ( 30,780 )
Seat 10: Shark__Diver ( 101,529 )
Trny:34671802 Level:12
Blinds-Antes(1 500/3 000 -75)
dannyx444 posts ante [75]
aakkallin posts ante [75]
parachatt111 posts ante [75]
Gerwien1987 posts ante [75]
Casperdino posts ante [75]
DrawInDeath posts ante [75]
alyas posts ante [75]
dancer1954 posts ante [75]
S1berian posts ante [75]
Shark__Diver posts ante [75]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to aakkallin [ 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
alyas folds
dancer1954 folds
S1berian folds
Shark__Diver folds
dannyx444 folds
aakkallin raises [9,000]
parachatt111 raises [15,000]
Gerwien1987 folds
Casperdino folds
DrawInDeath folds
aakkallin calls [6,000] (?)
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
aakkallin checks (?)
parachatt111 bets [15,000]
aakkallin.. (?)
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:27 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: MTT Final table $11... Am I da donkish type?

Even idiots get AK?

Don't use his OPR as reads. If you don't have a read here, you should have folded pre. If you really want this pot, you pretty much have to smooth call float him and hope he doesn't fire a second barrel because he had a high PP cracked.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:34 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: MTT Final table $11... Am I da donkish type?

Goodness. You are calling with A9o preflop because? (Ans: either to bluff if he checks or to get some value out of an A).

Now you are concerned about what to do when he cont. bets with an A on the board?

Think about the logic of this - something is amiss here. What I would do is call on the flop, because there is a lot of value here; if he checks on the turn, check back; if he fires on the river, re-evaluate situation and go from there. If he checks on the river, make a smallish bet for value. Hey may call you down with JJ or something.

Also, It's VERY tempting to start making plays that you wouldn't against someone who's statistics are bad in MTTs. I like to see some play and let that play speak for itself. Like, I see a regular who has made 60K in the 69+6, and I start to think he's solid, but then he manages to play terribly and he's just a luckbox or playing like ass on this particular day. I like to let play speak for itself. Secondly, 200 MTTs is not a great sample size.

Barry
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:04 PM
Perplexity Perplexity is offline
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Default Re: MTT Final table $11... Am I da donkish type?

Heh, villian in that hand has -91% ROI after 202 tournaments. Even after placing third in this one that OP posted about. If my math is right, his ROI after 201 tournaments was -98.5%. That's pretty remarkable, no?
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:09 AM
AAKKallin AAKKallin is offline
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Default Re: MTT Final table $11... Am I da donkish type?

yes it is... Incredible achievement...

yes... ty guys... Obviously this is a lame spot I'm putting myself in... I checkraise him all in on flop, while he's holding AK. My reasoning as this is happening is that his OPR statistics are awfull and the minreraise 6K preflop makes no sense, so I just decide to go with the hand if A hits flop.... Obviously will be carefull with using OPR stats as basis for player skills.... Should have folded to reraise OOP....
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: MTT Final table $11... Am I da donkish type?

Since you have no reads, minreraises from uberdonks generally tend to be huge hands. I'd fold PF without a more solid read.
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