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Old 07-27-2007, 03:27 AM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: Let\'s lobby Sen. Barack Obama

Well, I'm sorry. If I had my pick between Obama pushing his socialist policies on the country and no online poker... then I'd take no online poker.

I just don't see how a "huge government" democrat is going to create any type of good situation for online poker. Could he bring it back? Sure.

It would be heavily taxed and heavily regulated (I understand that would happen now - but it could be worse than even our wildest dreams under his administration). We might be better off with what we have now than that.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:59 AM
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Well, I'm sorry. If I had my pick between Obama pushing his socialist policies on the country and no online poker... then I'd take no online poker.

I just don't see how a "huge government" democrat is going to create any type of good situation for online poker. Could he bring it back? Sure.

It would be heavily taxed and heavily regulated (I understand that would happen now - but it could be worse than even our wildest dreams under his administration). We might be better off with what we have now than that.

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While Dem's are many times "big government" concerning the economy and business, they tend to not be big government in what they would consider personal freedom issues. (See: gay marriage, abortion, etc.) -- Playing online poker in our underwear would fall under that same "personal freedoms" tent I think.

Both parties would tax it like crazy if it's legalized, just like everything else is taxed to death in this country. I'd imagine online casinos would be fine though, judging by the fact that B&M casinos are obviously very profitable while paying taxes.

I understand where you're coming from. I can't choose to vote for a candidate soley based on their support for online poker. It will get some hefty weight though, since the industry is currently my full time job.

You might want to take a look at the Libertarian Party. They feel the govt. should stay out of their lives in both business and personal freedoms.
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s lobby Sen. Barack Obama

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Well, I'm sorry. If I had my pick between Obama pushing his socialist policies on the country and no online poker... then I'd take no online poker.

I just don't see how a "huge government" democrat is going to create any type of good situation for online poker. Could he bring it back? Sure.

It would be heavily taxed and heavily regulated (I understand that would happen now - but it could be worse than even our wildest dreams under his administration). We might be better off with what we have now than that.

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The choices are vote for a government that will spend many billions on pointless wars and work to slowly strangle all personal liberties, or vote for a government that will spend many billions on largely impotent social programs but work to maintain all social liberties.

The way I see it there's a 0% chance of poker regulation in the former case, a small-moderate chance of poker regulation in the latter. The big government thing has no influence whatsoever. There's no such thing as a small government party anymore except maybe libertarian, as mentioned, but nobody'll vote for them because nobody wants to 'waste' their vote.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s lobby Sen. Barack Obama

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Well, I'm sorry. If I had my pick between Obama pushing his socialist policies on the country and no online poker... then I'd take no online poker.

I just don't see how a "huge government" democrat is going to create any type of good situation for online poker. Could he bring it back? Sure.

It would be heavily taxed and heavily regulated (I understand that would happen now - but it could be worse than even our wildest dreams under his administration). We might be better off with what we have now than that.

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I didn't say we should lobby FOR Senator Obama. I said we should lobby Obama to support us. In other words, I not talking about us backing him. I'm talking about him backing us, and why he should wish to do it. We want him to publicly back us and to sponsor Senate legislation, don't we?
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:59 AM
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I just don't see how a "huge government" democrat is going to create any type of good situation for online poker. Could he bring it back?

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Who else will bring it back? We have no Republican support. In the House, there are only 16 Republicans who I rated "A" or "B", out of 202 Republicans in office (I found 109 Democrats). Now, I'm no Democrat, but our party won't do it for us. So, for my poker advocacy efforts, I'm personally staying nonpartisan and focused solely on poker (like the NRA does).

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Sure...It would be heavily taxed and heavily regulated (I understand that would happen now - but it could be worse than even our wildest dreams under his administration). We might be better off with what we have now than that.

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Shouldn't we let him propose something before dismissing it out of hand? After all, it's not like Kyl will propose anything better. And, I don't see a way to maintain the status quo....it's either going to improve or get worse, IMHO.
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