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07-26-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: River brings a set but villain bets out?
bet turn?
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#22
07-26-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: River brings a set but villain bets out?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh, I also think 77 = KK here. So would you guys call the river with KK here? [/ QUOTE ] no, KK is ahead of many hands that 77 is behind here. [/ QUOTE ] I realy don't think he has a set very much. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I would think most people just fire their set again.
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07-26-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: River brings a set but villain bets out?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh, I also think 77 = KK here. So would you guys call the river with KK here? [/ QUOTE ] no, KK is ahead of many hands that 77 is behind here. [/ QUOTE ] I realy don't think he has a set very much. [/ QUOTE ] If he doesn't have a set, he also does not have two pair because you basically play them the same. He also does not have AK because TPTK would not fire a potsize bet on such a scary river. So that leaves 77 just as a bluff catcher. Why would you like a raise then?
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#26
07-26-2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: River brings a set but villain bets out?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh, I also think 77 = KK here. So would you guys call the river with KK here? [/ QUOTE ] no, KK is ahead of many hands that 77 is behind here. [/ QUOTE ] I realy don't think he has a set very much. [/ QUOTE ] If he doesn't have a set, he also does not have two pair because you basically play them the same. He also does not have AK because TPTK would not fire a potsize bet on such a scary river. So that leaves 77 just as a bluff catcher. Why would you like a raise then? [/ QUOTE ] Would AK fire a $20 bet?
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#28
07-26-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: River brings a set but villain bets out?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh, I also think 77 = KK here. So would you guys call the river with KK here? [/ QUOTE ] no, KK is ahead of many hands that 77 is behind here. [/ QUOTE ] I realy don't think he has a set very much. [/ QUOTE ] If he doesn't have a set, he also does not have two pair because you basically play them the same. He also does not have AK because TPTK would not fire a potsize bet on such a scary river. So that leaves 77 just as a bluff catcher. Why would you like a raise then? [/ QUOTE ] Would AK fire a $20 bet? [/ QUOTE ] Possible. Anyway, AK should bet the turn in the first place, and not check it, thereby failing to build a pot when it's good, and then suddenly fire a big bet on the scary river, repping the nuts with a hand with good showdown value, folding out every worse hand. A $20 bet can get calls from random pairs 'because the odds are so good' so there is some merit to that. Unless Villain is randomly pushing buttons, you can safely assume he does not have AK here.
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07-26-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: River brings a set but villain bets out?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh, I also think 77 = KK here. So would you guys call the river with KK here? [/ QUOTE ] no, KK is ahead of many hands that 77 is behind here. [/ QUOTE ] I realy don't think he has a set very much. [/ QUOTE ] If he doesn't have a set, he also does not have two pair because you basically play them the same. He also does not have AK because TPTK would not fire a potsize bet on such a scary river. So that leaves 77 just as a bluff catcher. Why would you like a raise then? [/ QUOTE ] Would AK fire a $20 bet? [/ QUOTE ] Possible. Anyway, AK should bet the turn in the first place, and not check it, thereby failing to build a pot when it's good, and then suddenly fire a big bet on the scary river, repping the nuts with a hand with good showdown value, folding out every worse hand. A $20 bet can get calls from random pairs 'because the odds are so good' so there is some merit to that. Unless Villain is randomly pushing buttons, you can safely assume he does not have AK here. [/ QUOTE ] I think people check AK a lot on the turn here. They bet when they have air though.
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07-26-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: River brings a set but villain bets out?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh, I also think 77 = KK here. So would you guys call the river with KK here? [/ QUOTE ] no, KK is ahead of many hands that 77 is behind here. [/ QUOTE ] I realy don't think he has a set very much. [/ QUOTE ] If he doesn't have a set, he also does not have two pair because you basically play them the same. He also does not have AK because TPTK would not fire a potsize bet on such a scary river. So that leaves 77 just as a bluff catcher. Why would you like a raise then? [/ QUOTE ] Would AK fire a $20 bet? [/ QUOTE ] Possible. Anyway, AK should bet the turn in the first place, and not check it, thereby failing to build a pot when it's good, and then suddenly fire a big bet on the scary river, repping the nuts with a hand with good showdown value, folding out every worse hand. A $20 bet can get calls from random pairs 'because the odds are so good' so there is some merit to that. Unless Villain is randomly pushing buttons, you can safely assume he does not have AK here. [/ QUOTE ] I think people check AK a lot on the river here. They bet when they have air though. [/ QUOTE ]
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